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Own personal game and to punish or investigate his political enemies. one of the other things that comes out of this, and this is an area in which somebody like elizabeth warren will probably benefit and probably hammer over and over again. and joe biden should actually hammer this over and over again, is how, again, how unprepared we are for the 2020 election in terms of security, foreign interference, in terms of how we are handling even the basic areas of voting and democracy. we are just not ready in any way, shape or form. >> i go back to what senator chris coons said last weekend. he sai...

Ever demands that somebody be fired in six hours? gregg, start with you. >> no investigation under the foreign, corrupt practices act has been launched against joe biden. there should be. it's a crime to use your public office to confer a benefit in exchange for something of value. it could be bribery, extortion on a services fraud, and this is sort of an admission by joe biden that that is what he was doing. if his intent -- and john solomon's story suggested was his intent -- to protect his son. that's a thing of value. it could be a crime. >> sean: i can think of a billion -- a few million ...

As i'm concerned. that is a wink and nod to continue the interference on trump's behalf. and then you have these people circling around the president and saying even though the president just told our enemies about that, we need to now shol it under wraps and not let the american people know that is the president's position. i think that is so dramatically so unamerican and it sure seems criminal. >> and park bbarbara, does anyoe any legal exposure for having hidden those transcripts? >> i think so. corrupt intent is an essential element. and facts matter. so i think investigating the purpose ...

The white house. >> so you do acknowledge that it would be a national security issue to america if that aid was being played with? >> i would say that anytime the president is on the phone with a world leader or discussing foreign aid, that would be an issue of national security. it's one of our standard practices. but what i'm going to tell you is that this is a president whose responsibility is to make sure that our money is not being wasted or being given to a government with corrupt intent, a history of corruption that has been called out by many before, and the president was making sure t...

Pro-western or pro-russian? he wanted to put a hold on the aid going to the ukraine until we could figure out, a, what side they were on and to make sure that corruption in a general sense was being addressed. the country has had a very long problem with corruption and -- >> do you think the president had anything to do with even holding the money back? you're asserting that as if you know. >> i'm basically going off of a "washington post" report that was coming out just a few moments ago. >> so you're running the campaign communications, and you don't know whether or not the president had any...