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And that is the us ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. - i heard very, very bad things about her for a long period of time. not good. - yovanovitch was recalled by president trump because rudy giuliani accused her of hampering efforts to dig up dirt on joe biden. - rudy giuliani was saying that she was the corrupt one, even though she was there pushing back on corrupt figures in ukraine. the taking down, the smearing and the attempt to destroy the career of a career foreign service official for this obscure political personal errand, it was the early warning signal, it was the shocking m...

Denazi feig ukraine. >> they have warned us for a the longest time that they would create a pretext for going in. and they did some of that. but vladimir putin decided he would do his own pretext. the first was this denazi fiction, as if a troubled democracy, corrupt one, was somewhat linked to some form of nazi ideology or exterminating groups of its own people. the first lie. the second one, which occupied a third of putin's speech on monday, that ukraine was trying to build nuclear weapons and invite the united states to put nuclear weapons on its territory. they gave up the soviet force

And would lay odds that there would be a war on europe unprovoked, a corrupt one but was taken over by a super power? i don't think either one of us would have given that much chance. the second is, listening to matthew chance and his incredibly brave and great work out there, think about this. he's telling us russian forces are 20 miles from kyiv. that in itself tells people thinking this morning that would be a few days, maybe a week. i think the third big thing we have to think about for this is that we have gone from a world in 15 years where we were discussing russia as a potential partne...

Dana, just because you interact with rudy, i'll start with you. what did you think of this interview? >> well, on the yovanovitch stuff on, you know, the accusations that she is the corrupt one, that that's what he was trying to get in this particular last trip to ukraine, yes, he has said that. he has said that to me. he's said that to many people. he did make the soros connection as well. what was new here is him defending himself on going after george soros, and the way i read it, and i'm curious about john, what you think, is that there is widespread concern among, you know, many the adl a...

Everyone's interest is ahead of the people of the united states of america. the way democrats will be able to beat trump is to draw a sharp contrast on that as possible. so he's the corrupt one, we have to be able to say credibly we're out there fighting for the american people. we're fighting for folks struggling to pay student loans. fighting for the folks who can't rustle up child care. the folks who can't pay medical bills. that's the distinguish. >> one policy point. you were talking about to buttigieg tonight -- i use the verb talking. there was disa greemt on decency. the idea of how he...