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Business, the media, across the board, and the president since hes been in office has stoked that in an unprecedented way. The argument that theyre going to make about the fact that hes obstructing certainly matters on constitutional level but does it matter on a who cares level. This is an issue, i think the loss of institutional integrity, because our politics are tribalized and divisive, why nancy pelosi did not want to move forward with impeachment for the longest time, because it would be so divisive and she feels like her hand has been, you know, that theres no choice but to move forward...

Public office for private gain. and we agree that no president may put himself before the country. the constitution and his oath of office, his promise to american citizens, require the president to put the country first. if we could drop our blinders for just one moment i think we would agree on a common set of facts as well. on july 25th, president trump called president zelensky of ukraine and asked him for a favor. that call was part of a concerted evident -- effort to announce an investigation not an investigation of corruption writ large but an investigation of president trump's politica...

And there's been -- i don't believe there's anything unlawful here or criminal here as it relates to the president's conduct. >> you legitimately believe he was asking -- you legitimately believe he was asking the president of ukraine to look into corruption writ large but just only happened to mention biden, that that was the only -- >> -- specific about what he was asking, no. no. anderson, i make the -- >> he was specifically asking about the bidens. >> look into biden -- >> right. >> as it related to biden. again, i don't believe there's any criminality in making that ask. you'll be hard p...

On -- do me a favor on that then the other ask was, you know, was about biden. >> looking into the biden issue. yeah. look, it's the president's prerogative to ask folks to look into corruption as he sees it. and there's been -- i don't believe there's anything unlawful here or criminal here as it relates to the president's conduct. >> you legitimately believe he was ask -- you legitimately believe he was asking the president of ukraine to look into corruption writ large but just only happened to mention biden, that that was the only -- >> specific about what he was asking, no. no. anderson, i...