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Control of the house and senate. >> i grew up watching boxing every friday night. we loved boxing. god, "sugar" ray robinson. it was everybody and our hero came along, muhammad ali. but to get to him, he had to beat a guy who was unbeatable. sonny liston. and nobody could beat him and so he couldn't beat anybody. there's going to be a point where he can't win anymore. he's lost two in a eroon yemen the declaration. three defeats this year. so you don't see coming a crack in the wall. >> the crack in the wall isn't with his base. the crack is with the republicans in the house and the senate. ma...

Behind someone that you believe in. not behind people that you think can beat donald trump, right? because -- i bring that up because of what you just talked about. which is the fact that you feel people will get behind a white ticket. i felt you were inferring that that's who could beat the current president, right? and a ticket with someone like kamala harris or cory booker or more diverse ticket couldn't beat the president. but if people were behind a ticket that they actually believed in, maybe it necessarily wouldn't be a biden. is that what you were getting at? i'm wondering if -- what i...

You into lose. it couldn't be ted cruz, couldn't beat donald trump. why would we think beto who could that be ted cruz would be more successful in a presidential run? everybody from beyoncé to barack obama supported beto and now he's this darling. what happened to sanders, harris, gillam in florida, came in close. i am puzzled by this. >> i agree to a certain extent. he did lose this race but a part we should pay attention to is a conservative state and he didn't run to the center. he had a strong democratic platform and almost beat ted cruz. i think for democrats what they can look at is som...

Could be even 40 or 41 depending how everything goes. we are waiting for results in utah and other places. the reality for nancy pelosi is if you couldn't beat her in the years she should have lost, no one has ever in human history run for speaker after failing to retake the house two times. the convention with if you lose the house to get to try again and if you don't get it you are obliged to leave. he didn't leave then. she was supposed to have left after 2012 but she lost again in 2014 and 2016, democrats reelecting her even in those circumstances. i find it highly unlikely that after she ...

They are at 39. could be 41. we are waiting for results in utah and other places. the reality for nancy pelosi is if you couldn't beat her in the years that she should have lost, the years she should have lost, no one has ever in human history run for speaker after failing to retake the house two times. they convention was if you lose the house, you get to run, try again and if you don't get it, then you are obliged to leave. she didn't leave them. she was a bunch of left after 2012, but she lost again in 2014 and she lost again in 2016. democrats kept reelecting her even in those circumstance...