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The nurse was actually using on you and appeared so that in scale, this was the actual swab that was being used, was at this? >> sandra: not funny. >> i didn't age very well but cnn had a policy, couldn't interview his brother for obvious reasons but waive that policy because it was good tv and he was in his basement so they did ten or 11 of these, now when things turn badly for the governor first with the cover-up of the scope of nursing home deaths in new york state and then this whole spate of sexual harassment allegations against andrew cuomo, suddenly cnn puts it back on. you can go on th...

My colleagues here who i believe are the best in the business in a bad spot. i never intended for that, i would never intend for that and i am sorry for that. >> sandra: howie kurtz is with us. was that enough? >> it was a good thing chris cuomo apologized. cnn itself saying his actions were inappropriate, he didn't have much choice and it was a rather narrower policy not for the substance of what he did because he put his colleagues in a bad -- crossed a bright red line here, the two brothers are very close, that's no surprise but by jumping on these damage control with top lawyers and p.r. p...

Think we are looking for from the biden team's they might not want to deal with dprk, might want to deal with china and iran and other issues but what happens when he decides he's not getting enough attention on the world stage and he does decide to launch an icbm or does decide to test a weapon, we need to know then what the biden team's plan will be. i know from working on these issues with our deputy secretary of state that it's very hard and very complicated to say anything publicly on this. it remains a mystery for most administrations. >> john: senator bill haggerty, the ambassador to ja...

This, 100 callers who called in, the vast majority of them oppose this on these grounds pretty much because there is great concern here. what one woman, a latina woman was in tears because her gifted child was not going to be able to get the education that she had hoped for and that her child was thriving and if these changes go into effect. >> john: as you pointed out, just going to be a policy, not a rule, but these things tend to be a slippery slope. we have some breaking news and have to run but thank you for joining us, appreciate it. >> sandra: breaking at this moment, we have just recei...

Initiatives, this effect i believe is going to harm the very people that intends to help. >> john: china are big a strategic competitor doesn't hold any of its students back, tries to push them as far as it can, certainly not thinking about equity in terms of mathematics, what are the dangers of the u.s. pursuing a policy of equity and holding students back in affect about china is blazing full steam ahead? >> if it prevents us from reaching their full capacity in terms of our stem careers in their fields and our ability to maintain what we've done so far in those areas, i think it's pretty ob...