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Additional term? >> do you think, lemire and the white house, that it's changed? do people -- from your reporting, bill's making a point trump is a monster and not only did he become less of a monster, he became more of a monster. he was unstable and now he's more unstable with people he left a mark on that maybe they were drifters and had hope if i came in and helped him, he would grow in the job. is that the perception that's the case or basically these people were drifters who wanted the power, wanted the access, wanted what it did for them and rode in with trump and now they're just making...

But this decision should've been made by a jury in a courtroom. when we started this whole movement with eric garner and then on to michael brown and ferguson, was for the law to work, not administration jobs. >> reverend, i'm going to cut you off real quick because we're going to hear eric garner's mother. >> pantaleo, you, your regime, you can appeal all you want. but i am still out here. i am out here for the long run. you call out here against me. i'm out here. and cannot scare me away. pantaleo, you may have lost your job, but i lost a son. >> that's right! >> july 17th, 2014, i lost my s...

Really just chaos. and he creates conspiracy theories and that's how he deals with it but doesn't do the work. even when you think about the wake of el paso and dayton, ohio, he did not unify. he did not console. he divided. so all of this is his doing. >> so i want to play because of what you were saying makes me think of a piece of sound we have here from elizabeth warren talking about this. i think one of the big questions going forward is obviously the economic slump is bad for trump but it also complicates things in various ways for democrats having to deal with this on the campaign trail...

Kristol. bill, tell me, if you stripped away all of the personalities involved and the mooch and trump's reaction to it, the notion there are a bunch of trump officials who think the president is unstable would not surprise you, correct? so, therefore, do we take this seriously that scaramucci might do something with that, the trigger to get these people out or is he using his notoriety, what little there, to get on cable news? >> he did work for trump for 11 days and trump trusted him enough to try to bring him in as communications secretary or whatever it was. he's on the record saying trump...

Snoo senator coons was just on and would clearly liked to have heard something different from biden. he wanted to hear the obama administration prioritized people with criminal records and the trump administration has zero tolerance which led to all of these -- this flood of family separations. we didn't hear that from joe biden. and julian castro is criticizing also this administration that he was part of. what did you guys think about this exchange and which approach is better? >> well, i thought one of the things that joe biden did right last night, and he needs a crisper answer on immigrat...