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Camera. 94 minutes in a rioter was shot and killed. and on and on and on, played out on live tv as donald trump, then the president of the united states of america, then commander in chief, from whom the mob believed they were receiving their marching orders, watched, looked on, stayed silent. that is where we start today. carol leonning is here. she worked on this reporting. also, former assistant director for a county intelligence at the fbi, frank figluzzi, and jason johnson. all three are msnbc contributors. carolyn, how did this come to be? i didn't know this was coming. it was surprise w...

That would be -- the intelligence community would not necessarily like. >> oh, it wouldn't like it at all. it would be a terrible thing. i have the good fortune of not being a lawyer but i am an intelligence officer. and if there are indications of associations of foreign intelligence services, then you have to investigate them. this is classic standard counter intelligence work. it's not spying. calling that spying is stupid talk. also dangerous because it interferes with the procedure functions of the county intelligence and law enforcement authorities and intelligence authorities. of the un...