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Jack, the point main in the white house for this. he is now kevin mccarthy's political director. even within mccarthy's current staff it is not only mccarthy who is complicit and has to testify, he has other people on his staff who have direct material evidence that's relevant to the january 6th committee. i think that also plays into his calculation on what to do because it will impact what those who work for him do. >> that's a remarkable 2k5i8. i don't know where the coup plotters went with the -- sort the monster.com coup plotters. i'm free. it didn't work out. hire me. but jamie raskin ma...

Are backed up with virtually unanimously by the supreme court. >> yeah, i mean justice gorsuch and justice kavanaugh voted that way. it would have been an active really radical right-wing traditional activism to concoct compelling interest for donald trump in the majority found he did not even advance any instruct, much less a compelling one i would override an agreement between the legislative and executive branches. there was no warrant for invocation of the executive privilege, which of course is an exceptional remedy. the basic rules of our courts is that the sovereign gets the evidence it...

And katty kay. >> i would point to two things that they have pointed to in the last few hours. one is that donald trump called the willard hotel, which is kind of coup central. trump called right before the attack on january 6th, also the night of january 5th. we know there's several calls. the people on the other end of those call, the coup plotters, are claiming privilege. we don't know the substance, but it ties trump potentially directly to the plotting that was going on at the willard hotel. the second thing we learned, donald trump took 187 minutes on january 6th to condemn the violence ...

See in the future where the justice department goes with that. will donald trump himself be brought into a conspiracy charge? do they believe that they can actually charge him with a crime? but there's a lot here for them to work with. >> yeah. that is the $64,000 question. i will note in other countries that coups sometimes happen, and when they don't work, the coup platters and the people who execute them are charged. you don't, like, try and then they say, ah, don't do that again. it's pretty standard in the post-coup racketing playbook is that there are charges for the coup plotters. carol...

An agreement between the legislative and executive branches. there was no warrant for invocation of the executive privilege, which of course is an exceptional remedy. the basic rules of our courts is that the sovereign gets the evidence it wants. the rule of law depends on the and of course lead the january six committee has been winning all of these cases against coup plotters and insurrections who think that somehow donald trump can wave a magic wand where he used to do and prevent them from having to testify before our committee. >> at this point do you have what you need from the courts as...