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Senators, they'll have to make decisions about how much coverage loss are they okay with. this is a question snars get a lot. they don't want to give you a number saying i would be okay with x number of people losing coverage. that's a decision that will face senators this week as they think about their vote. >> time to do an important part of our job because the health and human services secretary did just that, sarah. he did put a number on it. he said no one will lose coverage and that premiums won't increase. and kellyanne conway went a step further. here is what she said. >> these are not...

That lots of people who would otherwise have been covered under current law are not going to be covered if a new bill comes in. >> i think it's hard to tell. it's just dependent how badly senators who said they can't support the bill or unsure want to get to yes. the fact of the matter is if it's a big number similar to the house bill, 15 or 20 or 22 million people, that's likely to spook a lot of senators, some of whom are coming under pressure from their own republican kbm s governors. if there's a big coverage loss found in the cbo score you might see more people moving away from the bill o...

And even if you walk a little bit back from how the cbo analysis is, that doesn't really matter, the fundamentals are a lot of coverage loss, and premiums don't go down. i think that is the real issue. >> shannon: all right, we do have this one cbo prediction that says by 2020, they are down by 30%, but the american metal so she and today it first do no harm. the draft legislation sets the standard on many levels, but what they go on to say is that they are worried about people losing access not to affordable quality health care, but losing access to insurance coverage, and the listen, doug, w...

March. that 24 million number, particularly for moderates, so as this heads over to the senate now, this will certainly be a head line that everybody is paying attention to. one other key point, and i think this is noteworthy. when had you talk to senators involved in this process on the republican side of things, they made very clear, they are rewriting this bill. the only number that really mattered was making sure procedurally that could move forward, the deficit reduction bill but as we talked about earlier, jake, the issues that have cropped up in the house debate are the same ones croppi...

Especially from the right here specifically. obamacare-lite. that's not going to work when you try to congeal, as you were discussing earlier the republican party to get it through the house and then to the senate. >> it's obamacare-lite and it will reduce coverage for individuals. two of the greatest challenges republicans could never accept with republican was nancy pelosi's pass it before we see what's in it and the individual mandate. the reality is republicans in congress passed it before they knew the score and coverage loss secondly they shifted the penalty to paying the insures. two of...