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As it is, we put it on autopilot. try to see what the government would spend. it then looks at the senate bill and says how does that picture change? it's primary job is to report out and ensure that the legislation meets the requirements of the senate rule rules. it has to figure out how many people will be on medicaid and thus develop these coverage numbers that you are so much about, but those are supplementary. that's not their primary mission. >> i was listening to the interview i did with a radio station. use of the difference between scoring the bill and forecasting the future, i like t...

23 million. really, 22 million, 23 million, not so different in terms how bad this is for coverage numbers. for a lot of senate republicans you can imagine, already on the fence, sitting on the fence, undecided, that cbo score simply did not help their decisions. >> and m.j. lee live on capitol hill. grab anyone after the lunch, we'll gemt you t you back on. shelby holiday of the "wall street journal" and betsy woodruff of the daily beast. senators going into what is normally their friendly tuesday lunch but van internal revolt in the republican ranks. this is not only a test for mitch mcconne...

For more than 63 days, they would have to wait six months before they could get back into the market. the rationale is not unlike the individual man dade that obama care has, something that would be repeal. you're trying to incentivize younger, healthier individuals to make sure they get into the marketplace. that should expand the risk pool p. so they're trying to get add a mandate without actually calling it a man dade, but it's an important piece. when you look at coverage numbers. the house bill shod 23 billion would be fewer would have coverage based on that house bill. republicans obviou...

Lower, lets in the way of drop up front, and you will get better coverage numbers. medicaid has to be reformed. it is an inside of eight years. it is unimaginable that it will survive eight years in this forum, so the question for everyone is not do you want to do medicaid reform, it is which reforms do you want. you're allowed to disagree with these. far from perfect bill. but it has got to happen, to compare this to an unrealist reality, where you throw money at it, it is not a good comparison. >> jonathan, i'll let you take it away. >> so basically the notion that we couldn't survive eight ...

Before getting coverage. this is not like the individual mandate on some level, which is you want young healthier people to be incentivized to get into the marketplace making it work better and spreads out the risk pool in general and hopefully drives costs down a little. what they're trying to do here is essentially incentivize people who would want insurance for long periods of time to get back into the marketplace as quickly as possible to avoid that six-month penalty here. this isn't the individual mandate. it's a watered down version of a mandate but necessary for the health of the market...