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We are joined by dr. patel, former white house health care policy director in the obama administration. good afternoon. chicago is a good example of what so many cities across the country are facing. new mandates to deal with this covid surge that's still happening. questions about what kids are supposed to do as they head back to school. >> reporter: what we know, as you mentioned, chicago joining cities like new york, los angeles, san francisco as well as new orleans who have these vaccine mandates in place. what it looks like here in chicago is that anybody 5 years of age and older has to p...

Better advice. what we are telling people, if you don't feel good, stay home. we need to honor that as an employer, employee, day care, child, school, all of the above. too many people are getting fixated on, i'm on day five, i think i'm better, but i'm having sniffles. don't go to the workplace. this is serious. saying this is mild is true if you are vaccinated and boosted. we have a third of the country that's not. then even more people, too many people over the age of 65, that are not boosted. we still have a vulnerable population. not to mention younger people. not to mention people that a...

>> at the end of the day. that being said. asking for a friend. >> yeah, asking for a friend can go because it's never really for a friend. also circle back, deep dive, the year on mute, which we need. >> we need that. >> supply chain. can we add, it's the personality for me. putting for me at the end of everything. let that go. leave that in 2021. >> that's a no from me, dog. >> let's put that on the list, too. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. >> wait, what? new year, new you? same old covid problems. "the lead" starts right now. as kids return to class, mask confusion and anxi...

Omicron is presenting in the upper airways. that can present complications to children. i don't want people to fall into this narrative of only testing people who are vulnerable. that's actually how we made mistakes in the past of not understanding how extensive covid is. >> let me see if we can end on a positive note. we heard from dr. richard besser who said omicron may be the panel out of the pandemic. he was explaining if you get more infections, you could get more protection. do you share that hope? do you think that maybe after a few rough weeks, if this omicron surge hits and drops like...

Of testing. i wonder what you make of it. here it is. >> if your grandmother gets a test, that's a more valuable test than the 8-year-old third grader that los angeles county is sending to get weekly testing. we are going to be working to unwind the sort of testing psychology. >> he says the biden administration has been promoting. do you believe there's a testing psychology? is that our way out of the pandemic? >> i think that's ludicrous. that reminds me of when president trump said we are testing too many people. there's no rationale -- to say and write off what happens to children who get ...