Y all got black people messed up. you re not thinking about what it means to be black in this city and you re going to hold you have the same degree as me, credential, and you don t even know how to treat black people. and that s kind of the impetus of this. so did you get your ph.d.? yes. so i should call you doctor? i mean, you know. my wife has a ph.d. so i know that s a real serious thing. she makes me call her doctor around the house. oh, see? i m not going to fight. all right. so when these workshops happen, sort of anti-blackness workshops, it feels like it s either black people showing up who are like yeah, i already know, you know what i mean? or it s white people who show up who are like oh, my god, i never had any of these thoughts. and if those people are in a room together one of them is not being served sometimes. you know what i mean? what we ve learned is a lot of issues of other intersections of oppression become more real here. so we focus on race. y ....