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Out there? >> if you talk to smart democrats, number one, they think the democratic party does not have a consistent coherent message on crime. track republican ads, republicans are trying to play this up. go back to why did george h.w. bush get elected, they won the suburbs on crime and taxes and smaller government and getting the government already away. those issues, inflation and crime, right now, still play in republicans' favor. the economic stuff is a little bit more murky as gas price goes down and people start to feel a little better, which is why if you look through the key battlegro...

Joins me on the phone. it's great to talk to you. it seems like some of these will have an impact on the midterms. when it comes to alvin bragg, he told new york what he was going to do and voted into office. i wonder how that happens sometimes. >> right, and it was sort of a conflicting message from voters in new york city because they already put a mayor in office, someone who won in a crowded democratic primary field with a tough on crime mental. crime message. it could be a problem for democrat because you could draw a straight line from the progressive implemented in the city to the rise ...

Is going t -- it's not going to be $6 trillion, likely. but i think that they're going to want to get some of these priorities dealt with. i don't think they'll stand in the way of that. >> that gets a question mark as to the size. we'll see it there. somebody help me. someone tell me why i shouldn't do that and that. police reform talks will stall because it's complicated and a lot of republicans are saying we want a crime message. let's not give the president anything in voting rights. republicans trying to restrict voting rights. is there any reason to believe the republican will come on bo...

Voters. and we need to make sure that we invest in organizing staff on the ground so that we can reach people, communicate with them, let them know what the issues that are on the agenda in washington and why it is important for them to vote. and we have to mobilize them and get them to the polls and mack sure that they are protect -- of make sure that they are protected when they get there. so a historicalen investment to come do just that. >> and i want to ask you about those important issues. eric adamsed a a tough on crime message in new york city. now he is leading the race to be new york...

Then election night 2018, democrats pick up 40 seats in the house. >> look, more importantly, there was message testing here on the right. they try to run basically on the crime message that they thought won them some swing districts, whether it's the charleston district in south carolina, the two south florida districts which now many believe the defund the police argument worked. look, i think a lot of us thought it could make some inroads in a place like albuquerque and that fell flat it looks like on the republican side of things. >> yeah, no, absolutely. i think that was -- republicans ho...