then election night 2018, democrats pick up 40 seats in the house. >> look, more importantly, there was message testing here on the right. they try to run basically on the crime message that they thought won them some swing districts, whether it's the charleston district in south carolina, the two south florida districts which now many believe the defund the police argument worked. look, i think a lot of us thought it could make some inroads in a place like albuquerque and that fell flat it looks like on the republican side of things. >> yeah, no, absolutely. i think that was -- republicans hoped it would look something like this, you know, where it would come down to six, seven points, something like that, and they could say exactly that. look, we pressed the prime message. the democrats have been giving us this issue, and there's traction, but this is the one thing, again, this is 2017, 2018. look how much evidence we had. we're not getting any more special -- we're going to have two in ohio that are going to take place this november on the