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the last year. it's a crisis hiding in plain sight _ the last year. it's a crisis hiding in plain sight. so, _ the last year. it's a crisis hiding in plain sight. so, absolutely. in plain sight. so, absolutely public— in plain sight. so, absolutely public service _ in plain sight. so, absolutely public service reform - in plain sight. so, absolutely public service reform but - in plain sight. so, absolutely. public service reform but crime, safety. — public service reform but crime, safety, particularly _ public service reform but crime, safety, particularly as _ public service reform but crime, safety, particularly as gangs - public service reform but crime, | safety, particularly as gangs and shoplifters — safety, particularly as gangs and shoplifters have _ safety, particularly as gangs and shoplifters have become - safety, particularly as gangs and shoplifters have become much. safety, particularly as gangs and - shoplifters have become much bolder, shoplifters have become much holder, to be frank— shoplifters have become much holder, to be frankand— shoplifters have become much holder, to be frank and given _ shoplifters have become much holder, to be frank and given some _ shoplifters have become much holder, to be frank and given some of- shoplifters have become much holder, to be frank and given some of the - to be frank and given some of the cost of— to be frank and given some of the cost of living _ to be frank and given some of the cost of living pressures. - to be frank and given some of the cost of living pressures. like - to be frank and given some of the cost of living pressures. like youl cost of living pressures. like you think— cost of living pressures. like you think that's — cost of living pressures. like you think that's happening _ cost of living pressures. like you think that's happening because l think that's happening because people — think that's happening because people are _ think that's happening because people are finding _ think that's happening because people are finding it _ think that's happening because people are finding it harder- think that's happening because people are finding it harder tol think that's happening because - people are finding it harder to make ends meet? — people are finding it harder to make ends meet? this— people are finding it harder to make ends meet? , , people are finding it harder to make ends meet?— ends meet? this is the point i'm talkin: ends meet? this is the point i'm talking about. _ ends meet? this is the point i'm talking about. i'm _ ends meet? this is the point i'm talking about. i'm sure - ends meet? this is the point i'm talking about. i'm sure we - ends meet? this is the point i'm talking about. i'm sure we can . ends meet? this is the point i'm| talking about. i'm sure we can all look— talking about. i'm sure we can all look at _ talking about. i'm sure we can all look at society around us and see that it _ look at society around us and see that it is — look at society around us and see that it is decaying. shoplifting is increasing, crime is through the root _ increasing, crime is through the root you — increasing, crime is through the roof. you can talk about serious sexual— roof. you can talk about serious sexual offences, the rape conviction rate is— sexual offences, the rape conviction rate is appalling. things aren't working — rate is appalling. things aren't working and we can either safe interest— working and we can either safe interest rates are high maybe we can't _ interest rates are high maybe we can't borrow enough, or we can have the conviction— can't borrow enough, or we can have the conviction to try and improve society— the conviction to try and improve society for— the conviction to try and improve society for the better. do you want to be _ society for the better. do you want to be a _ society for the better. do you want to be a political leader that leads or do— to be a political leader that leads or do you — to be a political leader that leads or do you want to triangulate and say can't — or do you want to triangulate and say can't really borrow? do or do you want to triangulate and say can't really borrow?— say can't really borrow? do you think the demographic - say can't really borrow? do you think the demographic you - say can't really borrow? do you - think the demographic you understand best looks at keir starmer and thinks, there is a leader? ila. thinks, there is a leader? no. sharon, thinks, there is a leader? no.
outcomes. the benefit to society to make these changes. keir outcomes. the benefit to society to make these changes.— outcomes. the benefit to society to make these changes. keir starmer is clearl not make these changes. keir starmer is clearly not keen _ make these changes. keir starmer is clearly not keen to _ make these changes. keir starmer is clearly not keen to spend _ make these changes. keir starmer is clearly not keen to spend taxpayers'| clearly not keen to spend taxpayers' money on building houses. sharon, as an economist, is it possible right now, is it smart to borrow money to do the kinds of things keir starmer might want to do but at the moment thinks it's not like to spend money on? i thinks it's not like to spend money on? ~' , ., thinks it's not like to spend money on? ~' on? i think the space to spend significant _ on? i think the space to spend significant investment - on? i think the space to spend significant investment has - on? i think the space to spend significant investment has got| significant investment has got tighten — significant investment has got tighter. interest— significant investment has got tighter. interest rates- significant investment has got tighter. interest rates are - significant investment has got| tighter. interest rates are now significant investment has got. tighter. interest rates are now up to 6%, _ tighter. interest rates are now up to 6%, they— tighter. interest rates are now up to 6%. they were _ tighter. interest rates are now up to 6%, they were 2% _ tighter. interest rates are now up to 6%, they were 2% even - tighter. interest rates are now up to 6%, they were 2% even a - tighter. interest rates are now up to 6%, they were 2% even a yearl tighter. interest rates are now up - to 6%, they were 2% even a year ago. the space — to 6%, they were 2% even a year ago. the space is— to 6%, they were 2% even a year ago. the space is tighter. _ to 6%, they were 2% even a year ago. the space is tighter. at— to 6%, they were 2% even a year ago. the space is tighter. at the _ to 6%, they were 2% even a year ago. the space is tighter. at the same - the space is tighter. at the same time _ the space is tighter. at the same time that— the space is tighter. at the same time that a — the space is tighter. at the same time that a really— the space is tighter. at the same time that a really big _ the space is tighter. at the same time that a really big actions - the space is tighter. at the same time that a really big actions that any government _ time that a really big actions that any government can _ time that a really big actions that any government can take. - time that a really big actions that any government can take. one i time that a really big actions that any government can take. one of time that a really big actions that - any government can take. one of the things— any government can take. one of the things i_ any government can take. one of the things i was— any government can take. one of the things i was surprised _ any government can take. one of the things i was surprised not _ any government can take. one of the things i was surprised not to - any government can take. one of the things i was surprised not to hear- things i was surprised not to hear more _ things i was surprised not to hear more about— things i was surprised not to hear more about is— things i was surprised not to hear more about is crime. _ things i was surprised not to hear more about is crime. crime - things i was surprised not to hearl more about is crime. crime linked things i was surprised not to hear. more about is crime. crime linked to the cost _ more about is crime. crime linked to the cost of— more about is crime. crime linked to the cost of living. _ more about is crime. crime linked to the cost of living. the _ more about is crime. crime linked to the cost of living. the john— more about is crime. crime linked to the cost of living. the john lewis - the cost of living. the john lewis partnership. _ the cost of living. the john lewis partnership. we _ the cost of living. the john lewis partnership, we are _ the cost of living. the john lewis partnership, we are a _ the cost of living. the john lewis partnership, we are a big - the cost of living. the john lewisi partnership, we are a big retailer, 74.000 _ partnership, we are a big retailer, 74,000 employees. _ partnership, we are a big retailer, 74,000 employees. one - partnership, we are a big retailer, 74,000 employees. one of- partnership, we are a big retailer, 74,000 employees. one of the i partnership, we are a big retailer, | 74,000 employees. one of the big issues _ 74,000 employees. one of the big issues is _ 74,000 employees. one of the big issues is partner— 74,000 employees. one of the big issues is partner safety. _ issues is partner safety. shoplifting _ issues is partner safety. shoplifting has - issues is partner safety. shoplifting has gone - issues is partner safety. shoplifting has gone upl issues is partner safety. - shoplifting has gone up 26%. but issues is partner safety. _ shoplifting has gone up 26%. but in the last— shoplifting has gone up 26%. but in the last year~ — shoplifting has gone up 26%. but in the last year. it's _ shoplifting has gone up 26%. but in the last year. it's a _ shoplifting has gone up 26%. but in the last year. it's a crisis _ shoplifting has gone up 26%. but in the last year. it's a crisis hiding - the last year. it's a crisis hiding in plain—