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We thank president bush for having made the right calls to set up this victory. >> the tools president bush put into place, gitmo, rendition, enhanced interrogation, the effort to get the information and put it in a usable form served his successor quite well. >> i don't know, folks, anybody playing a violin? do you see a pattern here? it's not going to stop. king took it to another level on o'reilly's show. >> you mentioned we obtained vital information years ago. we obtained it through water boarding. for those who say it doesn't work and should be stopped and not used again, we got vital in...

>> we don't know much about his interrogations. in reports outside "the new york times" conflict with "the new york times" information. i always take the information that comes out after these types of events with a grain of salt. usually half of what we hear is incorrect. it will take time to flush out the whole story. what is clear is the information came from several sources. it was pieced together by analysts and the real heroes in this are intelligence collectors, interrogators. >> the conservatives are saying ksm served up the name and "the new york times" is reporting that's not the cas...

>> no, they are not correct. what a lot of people are forgetting is what professional interrogators have been saying all along, when you use techniques like water boarding, you get the bare minimum about of information out of a detainee. that minimum about of information is going to lack the details you need to execute a mission to take out a target. the type of information you need to take out a target isn't a nickname of a courier. it's who is that courier, how do we find him? and how do we know when he's meeting with the target. in this case, bin laden. it took seven years to go from water ...

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New york times" is reporting that's not the case, it came from the courier. so, there's a lot of misinformation, a lot of cross information going on out there. who do we believe? >> ed, if water boarding that happened seven to eight years ago just now led us to bin laden and that's the mesh of success, we are in a lot of trouble. it's not an e vektive technique. compare it to, you know, my team in iraq, i went out on raids. our time requirement was ten to 15 minutes to get info. back at a prison, our standard was two to three days to get info to act on. maybe a couple weeks or a few weeks in o...