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But not supportive of overturning roe v. wade and taking away those freedoms. counting this as a freedom does cross pressure even in conservative voters. that's why you see the numbers you see in some of these races. it's not just a democrat mobilizing issue, but it's also an issue that cross pressures a lot of voters that are the middle of the road who aren't necessarily pro-choice but are pro freedom. >> those numbers have been available to republicans since before roe was overturned, since the texas whack a doo vigilante law was first introduced. the bans that states are ushering in are opp...

There is this cross pressure between our commitment to taiwan, and human rights, and the reality that, you know, china is bearing down and no one quite knows how this is going to resolve itself, and china is watching probably closely and ukraine to see how that works out. but the reaction to pelosi's visit was, you know, as he pointed out, was lukike a dry r for blockading taiwan. and so there are concerns and he, you know, he is very focused on that. >> 99 years old. henry kissinger. obviously german jew, came to the united states, when adolf hitler was in power. and, david, you asked him a l...

Data and science. >> that was the white house press secretary jen psaki making it clear they are not ready to follow the lead of other democratic governors lifting mask mandates and moving toward living with the virus. back with our panel. cornell, state governors are the ones on the ballot in november 2022. the white house is not. should we just be that straight forward about it? >> well, you know, the local and state governments have to deal with reality and people all the time. there's tremendous cross pressure. i listened to doctors on this network earlier today say we should not be liftin...

Politics gets in the way of science. i think there's so much cross pressure here, what are they going to do in. >> i don't know the alternative. it's been pretty good politics on the right. >> mandates are only good with compliance. rhode island's governor is contemplating lifting their mandates. a third of the population has had covid. vermont hasn't had a mandate since last june and they're second from the bottom in numbers of infections. mandates have not worked. it's time to get rid of them everywhere. >> let's clarify that. the mandates have not necessarily not worked. because americans a...

That the president is proceeding as if the august 31st deadline still holds. what do we know about the situation on the ground in kabul for the past two weeks? it's that the degree to which we've been able to get individuals to the airport and on planes out of afghanistan has depended in large part on cooperation from the taliban. the taliban has made it crystal clear in the last 48 hours that they expect the u.s. will stick with its august 31st timetable. there's the obvious risk if the president were to give any indication if he intends to extend that. we also know there's cross pressure fro...