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Source vladimir putin? it's led, frankly, to impeachment. the president acted on that belief with a bogus, debunked theory about ukrainian rather than russian interference in the u.s. election. there were all kinds of pieces to that conspiracy theory that have been disproved. crowd strike was in the ukraine. well, no, it's in california. it's headed by a ukrainian. no, it's headed by a russian. these are proven facts. none of them seem to have penetrated mr. trump's consciousness. tragically for him he acted on it. >> i think my christmas wish, if you will, is that in 2020 facts matter even mo...

Words. it's his actions too. though parts of the administration have been strong on russia policy, the president has blocked a number of things in the interim, and he is certainly not, you know, while he refuses to acknowledge was behind it, he has latched on to the ukraine idea that has gained steam in the meeting in 2017 with putin in hamburg, which was according to "the washington post" reporting and we saw it at the g20, i was there in japan, he was asked again, will you tell president putin not to do this. he said don't interfere, all along listening to rudy giuliani say ukraine. >> mika ...

Elections. >> he said he did it for us. he made that appeal, which was a political appeal to the president of ukraine. he said he did it for our country. i said do us a favor not me and our country, not a campaign. he's now trying to claim that was some patriotic zealous effort on our behalf to help screw joe biden. that was a national effort to get rid of joe biden as a candidate. >> i think his excuse would have a little bit more weight if number one he actually said anything about the country. instead his entire conversation with the president of ukraine had it do with the bidens, had to do...

When he said, quote, i would like you to do us a favor, though, because our country has been through a lot and ukraine knows a lot about it. i would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with ukraine. they say crowdstrike. i guess you have one of your wealthy people. the server, they say ukraine has it. and then this. there's a lot of talk about biden's son, that biden stopped the prosecution. a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. now we have rudy giuliani with what appears to be the very first time ...

These witnesses are dodging. but it follows a political play we've seen from the president who which is to muddy the waters. ukraine is -- collusion, corruption. so part of the president's strategy and i think it's been executed by rudy as well is to muddy the waters by using the same phrases that he has been credibly accused of in his ukrainian deals. >> except protect his client from what? his client won the election. >> yes, but, remember, this is about muddying the waters about where there was collusion. this is the argument that democrats colluded with ukraine to hurt candidate trump. som...