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Leverage over a witness, they will often put pressure on those spots and make it clear that people like paul manafort that you're all alone. and as "game of thrones" would say, winter is coming. so i think that was certainly conveyed in that predawn raid. but obviously these statements are not helpful. i don't think it was helpful for his attorney dowd to criticize the raid on manafort. what they are losing is that crush space between the president and key targets. usually white houses try to increase that space, and they're doing everything they can to eliminate it. >> phil, become to paul ma...

That any criticism of meaningless, political motivated and not based on anything important. >> when the president says a lot of people have problems with their government forms in washington, is that accurate? >> well, omissions are common on things like sf-86s, failure to register foreign agents, those tend not to be criminally charged, but it doesn't mean they cannot be. if you have a special counsel that may be trying to get leverage over a witness, they will often put pressure on those spots and make it clear that you're all alone, and as "game of thrones" would say -- winter is coming. so...

Engaged in something which could be, we're not deciding it yet, but could be shaping a witness' testimony about a critical event. that is a violation of criminal law 101. you just don't do it because it can constitute obstruction or witness tampering. so they've got another problem on their hands. >> professor, should the president have been weighing in to craft a statement for his son, and also if jared kushner was in the room involved in this as well, is that appropriate? >> well, no, it's not a good idea. what the president did is he removed any crush space between him and this controversy....

Yet -- but could be shaping a witness's testimony about a critical event. that is a violation of criminal law 101. you just don't do it because it can constitute obstruction or witness tampering. >> should the president have been weighing in to craft -- help craft a statement for his son and if jared kushner is in the room as well, is that appropriate? >> well, no it's not a good idea. the president removed any crush space between him and the kau s controversy. you want to create some separation from the president. the critical crush suffice guarantee that you have some range of motion. as a c...