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Mechanism and the courts aren't equipped to deal with that, doj says, you have to let us be the party that goes in and enforces women's rights. it can't be the case that there's no one, so it has to be us. >> final thing here, joyce. is there an assumption you think inside the walls of doj this thing will get elevated to the supreme court no matter what? >> yes, i think this absolutely gets resolved in the court. i mean the real issue here after everything that we've seen is whether we now have a newly conservative supreme court that will apply different rules in cases that involve abortion th...

And weaknesses were. both of them deeply flawed but i think no one will say in the end that andrew cuomo's flaws were not much deeper than his father's and have now brought that dynasty, maybe not to an end. we can talk about that later. i think andrew cuomo thinks he's got another run in him down the line but that's another topic. >> susan, part of the reason that many people have said that cuomo couldn't have imagined this outcome is the sense of the entitlement, he's a cuomo, he can run again for a fourth term, and then hubris catching up to him in the end. what do you think of the cuomo na...