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Them on that proposal. will you be able to vote for that proposal, or will you vote against that proposal if it comes to you? >> i was with john boehner three hours ago, and john boehner said he wasn't working with them on that number. i don't know where you get this $33 billion number from. >> all right, congressman. it's what they're discussing in the back rooms that apparently you're not allowed in. >> what they're discussing is how we're going to get the senate democrats to finally sit down -- >> they have sat down. they've sat down. they've been talking for over a week. they're down to 33...

In denial. the american people aren't, lawrence. they understand how serious this situation is. >> well, the democrats are involved, and the president has been involved, and the vice president, joe biden's been involved. and they have negotiated -- >> oh, come on. >> they've negotiated, as you know, they've negotiated behind closed doors with john boehner and other people in the republican side a cut package of $33 billion. is that something that you could vote for? >> you know, first of all, lawrence, again, just look at the symbolism. a while back president obama appoints joe biden as his gu...

Reid, the senate majority leader accede to the wishes of the members of his caucus. the republicans foe they won't get the full $61 billion plan. but the people who are anxious are the moderates. they say we have to do a cut package because if we don't we'll look terrible on fist wall restraint. little rock has a caucus that will rebel against him if he can't find a way through this. he's interested in buying a couple more times with a shortstop gap measure. megyn: you look at the republican side and think at what pointing they get it passed? we got a debt that's $14 trillion. is it so snazzy ...