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Congressional budget office said that if you're 64 years old in america and you make $26,000 a year, your health insurance premiums under the affordable care act today are $1,700 a year. under their plan, it will go up to $14,000 a year. $26,000 a year, 64 years old, and you've got a $12,000 health insurance premium under this plan that's supposed to make, according to the vice president, health care more affordable? who does he think he's kidding? >> right, congressman, though, if i could push back on you a little bit, those numbers have certainly been going around, and i don't think -- defin...

Not true. they told us if you liked your doctors, you could keep them. not true. they told us if you liked your health plan, you could keep it. not true. every day that obamacare survives is another day the american people and american businesses are struggling. obamacare has failed, and obamacare must go. [ applause ] >> so, let's bring in congressman brian higgins of new york, a member of the house budget committee and the committee on ways and means. congressman, good morning. how do you respond to that, that the idea that the affordable care act has, in the words of the vice president, fai...

If, in fact, they are accurate, we should be able to address them and should have been able to address them not seven years later, but after the enactment of the affordable care act. everybody was willing to enact legislation to fix those problems that exist. for 100 years, democrats and republicans have been trying to reform health care. president obama achieved it with congress, but we recognized, again, that that wasn't a finish, it was a start. and republicans had every opportunity to participate in an effort to help the very people that they now cite who have been getting screwed for seve...

I may have said i've been stopped by people and this was their gripe running up to the election, a man stopped me in the store, had a stroke, had to deal with obamacare. he was furious. the political decision has been made to replace it. so the republican party and the trump administration i hope should be bold, go out there, and take the credit for it and change it. >> i think there are people who like obamacare. there are problems with it but it is incredible for the republicans at this point to now be in a position to do this and not have a plan. so many times be telling the democrats you d...

Incoming and outgoing administrations in plain view today in washington. on one side, president obama, on the other, mike pence. the flag in the middle obamacare and what will become of it. michelle kosinski reports. >> reporter: president obama on capitol hill today urging democrats to battle with all they've got against republican plans to gut his signature law, obamacare. >> thank you. >> looking out for the american people. >> reporter: democrats don't have the votes to block republicans. so his message to avoid, quote, rescuing them, hoping them craft their replacement. >> the president a...