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Who have been waiting in line, standing outside nin the rain, they say they want the justices really to look at the human element. >> el ya na fernandez left her long island home more than two weeks ago to walk 230 miles to the steps of the supreme court. she's one of the plaintiffs suing the trump administration for its decision to end the program that currently protects her from deportation, daca. >> are you afraid that at any moment you could be deported if daca doesn't continue? >> as a parent, one of the biggest fears that i have is losing protections against deportation that could lead t...

Leadership in on that conversation. i have not been in on conversations like that but i assume those it dialogue, happening. obviously, daca and protected undocumented, and hopefully there is a future debate on immigration during this time. daca doesn't have to be part of it as a requirement. hopefully it will be a requirement, but it doesn't have to be, because it pushed off past the president's election. >> your take on this idea of amnesty? the president tweeted when people suggested this was amnesty like ann coulter, no, amnesty is not part of my offer and amnesty will be used only on a mu...

Imgragts, and, you know, as ryan said, having fewer moderating influences around him. and, you know, i think -- we in washington know that congress doesn't do anything in even numbered years, but if you are joe six pack, that doesn't make any sense, that's stupid. why can't the congress keep going even though there's an election many months from now? so, i think part of that, you can't really blame trump for being annoyed. >> yeah, ryan, i guess the bigger question is whether the president really understands things, like, what daca is. he says big flows are people are trying to get into the co...

Resolved, if funding is coming up again, you can look for the candidates looking at national office, the blue state democrats, the national aspirants to say they want to have this fight again. on the other side, here's what you have. the tension here potentially, these are ten democrats up for re-election this year and all of them are in states that donald trump carried. i think here, you will see whether it's manchin in west virginia, mccaskill in missouri, heitkamp in north dakota, you have democrats that maybe are thinking about shutdown politics a little differently. so it raises a possibi...

Actually popular with most americans or will become popular. >> all right, then, brett, there you have it. brett stevens, a lot of people like a booming economy, you don't have to have a party for president trump, but you do have to acknowledge him. all right, we're going to leave it there. all right, now, let's take you back to capitol hill and msnbc's garrett haake. garrett, i know you just talked to several democratic senators. what are you learning? some people are saying daca doesn't need to be in this deal. it doesn't need to be in this deal, but if you want to have bipartisanship, the...