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Of them vote not to shut down government and you have 45 or 44 democrats vote against it, quantifiable, it's pretty easy to tell that the democrats don't want to move this bill along, a bill that they agree with. >> neil: senator, wish you well. we'll see what happens. senator chuck grassley. good seeing you. >> thank you. >> so the issue is whether there government can stay open another few hours and maybe passed midnight tonight. the issue in new jersey is who they want to go back to days where the rich were the target of taxes. just in case you thought in a high tax state and you're unable ...

Are so far apart on this daca issue. republicans wanted to attach these other things. boarder security, changes to the diversity program. a solution for chain migration, all of this to accompany daca and they thought they had until march. democrats are forcing their hand to come up with something in the next few days and it's not likely to happen. >> neil: there might be conservatives in the republican party that could say enough of this nonsense. whoever merits to keep the government open, there's some limits we have and nine of them in the house already voted against this sort of thing last ...

Of a dead-end issue to pursue a goal of a higher sur tax on millionaires or the richest in the garden state. now is not the time, especially when you can't deduct state local taxes and a high tax state like new jersey. that will chase people away. art laugher is a former adviser to ronald reagan. i envision fireworks there. what do you think? >> there will be fireworks. it's crazy what they're doing, neil. when you think of eliminating state and local tax deductions will do, it will raise the taxes by 45% just by itself and adding on top of that additional tax increases, it's crazy. new jersey...

>> said this was the schumer shutdown. how can it be the schumer shutdown when republicans control the white house, the house and the senate? >> you know the answer to that as well as anybody. i have to laugh when people say that. we control the house, the senate and the white house. why can't you get this done. you know as well as anybody, it takes 60 votes in the senate to pass appropriations. you know that. when you have 51 votes in the senate, then you have to have democrats support in order to keep the -- to fund the government. that's your answer. >> neil: to that point, mick mulvaney go...

Police that are defending us. they're not getting paid in this government shut down. let's reopen the government and the government reopened a few days later. so you have the events that can be unforeseen. can that effect the market? maybe, maybe not. and it deals with money. how much you willing to spend on this. certainly an issue on defense and nondefense issues. they want to increase defense spending, the republican defense hawks do there. but this is really about daca. that's why republicans say wait a minute. democrats are trying to shoe horn this in. in the end of the day, it's not abou...