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Compassionate solution to the daca situation. he wants to give them certainty. but any daca solution has got to include border security, to include a wall. steve: right. >> end of chain migration and an end to this diversity lottery. he has been very clear about that from the beginning. steve: right. he has been very clear about it, senator, and yet durbin and flake and graham brought this proposal to him last thursday and part of that stuff was there but the rest of it wasn't and he said are you guys kidding? this isn't what i want. get out of here. >> well, that's exactly right. this preside...

And one came in via chain migration. >> bret: you heard senator schumer. some republicans said they didn't know where president trump was on some of these issues. you mentioned the state of the union. will there be markers in the state of the union that the president is going to lay down and say here's what i need? get this and we will have been deal? >> yes, i think you will hear the president talk about it in the state of the union. we have been pretty clear. when secretary kelly, the dhs secretary, went to congress and said we need this solved, we put it out. in september we give a long lis...

Cornyn and senator durbin from the house, you've got kevin mccarthy and steny hoyer and then you have to secretary of homeland security, secretary neilsen and general kelly. that was most likely to produce a deal that can navigate through the senate and house. this is an institutional position but self-appointed groups of senators that gang up, that's fine, they can do whatever they want but it's not likely to get through the house. you have to involve all the elements in the deal from the have binning in the negotiations. >> so what are the number twos? what are the number twos thinking about...

They get some sort of a daca solution, so we're going to see more brinkmanship coming up to that break. so we're goi. >> i don't think the tectonic plates shift that much in three weeks. in a funding argument, immigration is hard for many members in the rust belt and many of these democratic senators who live in these ruby red states, you know, to stand in the way of the government shutdown, to support it, for immigration. i think there are a lot of americans that don't like trump, don't like where he is on immigration and other issues, but say, you know what? we should not conflate these issu...

We are going to hope that democrats are willing to work with us to make sure we actually resolve this issue. john? >> there are a lot of d.r.e.a.m.ers in this country who are living on pins and needles, not knowing what their fate is and has in store for them. what's the white house's message? >> they should storm capitol hill and protest there. that's the place that's held up the discussion. democrats are the one that shut this discussion down by forcing a government shutdown, by being unwilling to fund the government. we lost four days over this process of the conversation that should have b...