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Ham strung story wise almost instantly because we had to do 25 hours of "lost" in the first season. so we started communicating to abc. we're going to run out of flash back stories. >> call it, jack. >> you call it. >> and abc was adamant in saying, no, like, the show is a hit show. people love the flash backs. don't worry, you guys are great at it. just keep it up. >> are you okay, freckles? >> at the beginning of the third season of the show, we had our characters locked in cages. and i think looking back on it now, it was metaphorically how we felt. we felt we were locked in cages. >> aroun...

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You want to know what the best thing about it is? the best thing it stops. >> in the year 2000 we get malcolm in the middle. a pivotal show not the least of which because it gives us brandt granlund son. this is a single camera comedy. >> around here being smart is exactly being radioactive. >> single camera comedies were funny and the fact you could shoot them like movies and they could be terrific every week -- >> yep, class president felt really good. later that night i had a dream. >> you know, critics loved that because it was something new. it was something that they weren't expecting. >...

>> pull the trigger! pull the trigger! dam you! >> the commercial breaks in that show were almost welcome so that you could catch your breath. >> 24 was really the first binge show, if you think about it. there were a lot of people in the later years of "24" that would only buy the dvds. >> do you think he'll come after you. >> yeah. >> a lot of subtleties and complexities the story tellers had been doing, my god, this is blowing my mind, i can see it now because i just watched three in a row. >> battle star glallactica was show made in the 1970s. it was a good idea. civilization had been dest...