later. are you worried about the russians hacking us? no, i m not worried at all. russian espionage on the streets of new york city. i take the post of the people in street justice. and even find a little love. you re getting married? why question it. when you fall in love, what you do? you run. justice starts now i will speak with press secretary spicer. first, my opening statement. politics get get in the way a lot. sometimes, even in the way of dying kids. i wanted to start tonight with all the enthusiasm of the first children s foundation. permit a few differences. eric trump was not penniless or in debt when he started the eric trump foundation. he did not start that foundation to make money, and he certainly did not become rich because of it. here is what his own wife told me in florida. he started the eric trump foundation to help kids with cancer. in fact, he such a humble guy, i didn t i didn t even know about it. he started at the year before we met and it was almost like he didn t want to toot his own horn to say look what i did. on the show, i remember him saying that 100% of the proceeds go to the kids. it s very important to eric. this is something he has always worked so hard for. he works his hardest at the eric trump foundation, and i have seen him negotiate pennies off accomplishments like the intensive care unit at st. jude s opened in february 2015 before his dad was ever a candidate for anything. all the monies raised, almost 100%, given to the charity for the foundation. millions, almost 20 million operated with one employee. eric shouldering operating costs himself. so this past christmas eve, those children not dreaming of toys or sugarplum fairies, but the ones praying there next chemo or lead transfusion wouldn t hurt so much. some even praying that death wouldn t visit their rooms that night, hoping maybe, just maybe, an angel would come with a gift. not a gift of toys, but the gift of life all because of a young man named eric. they lost that night. yes, it was the unluckiest of them all who suffered that night because a young man who did nothing but good for all the right reasons could not continue to do good, because evil was assumed to be the norm as scrooge and the ghost of the clintons past visited the eric trump foundation and the children who benefited. that is my (tell me what you think of my facebook page or twitter. hashtag judge janine. joining me me now by phone, president-elect trump son, and executive director of the trump organization and founder of the eric trump foundation, eric trump aired this is his first television interview since expense ratio for charities in the world. we are so fortunate. it s one of the great benefits or perks of having a great organization with great assets that you can use practically for free. we raised so much money for st. jude s. the second someone is elected into public office, you re you re no longer given the benefit of the doubt. no matter how good your track record was or how much great you ve done, you re no longer given the elephant of the doubt and sadly, at the the end of the day, the only people who lose as you said so wellin your opening, the only people who lose are some of the sickest kids in the world and those are the kids at saint jude. jeanine: the new york times originally question how much you gave and said there wasn t any evidence to support it and just yesterday, apparently they seem to indicate that clearly you had given well over $16 million. was there any satisfaction from that. i thought it was very nice that they came around and actually admitted how much they donated to the hospital and they said very nice things which was very vindicating. i think there are some people who have said nasty things over the years and that s the political world that we as a family now live in. it s the reality. there will be people who go out and make statements to sensationalize whatever they can and sell newspapers and we will deal with that for the next four or eight years. jeanine: but you know, eric, that must frustrate you because you re not in office, you re not, you re not in the government. we haven t seen you pretty much of since the election because you and your brother that we saw so often are now back in the business. your father is getting ready to run the business of the country, and he has been, actually, since he was elected. does this frustrate you? yes it s frustrating and it s a narrative they will try to keep up for the next four or eight years and it will be a narrative of harassment. sadly again, it s too long. it s millions and millions of dollars going to the best pediatric research hospital anywhere in the world and that s sad. that is the game that gets played with politics. even if you said there is something to do with the administration, it will be the quagmire that we as a family live in for a long period of time. did you expect it would be this difficult, eric? it s been amazing. when i see my father save jobs all over the place, when you see what happened with ford. jeanine: but for you personally eric. i think we all knew when he jeanine: america is were ready to welcome a new president in less than two weeks, but not everybody s onboard. in fact, some, some people on the left are doing their best to subvert democracy and the american way by encouraging people to not even give the incoming president a chance to lead. the chance that he earned, fair and square, back in november. here is left-wing movie director michael moore right after the election talking about what he and his followers are going to be doing in the days up to and beyond the inauguration while donald trump is working tirelessly to fix the country. we are going to resist, we were going to oppose pratt this will be a massive resistance. there is already, women are calling for 1 million women march. jeanine: okay so it s indicative of a movement on the left to delegitimize the new president. joining me now to talk about that and more is white house press secretary sean slicer. jeanine: it was really an emotional piece. his foundation that he is forced to separate himself from from because nothing that he has done, he s not even in the government, but because of the behavior, i believe the clintons and all of the attacks on that foundation that i believe were legitimate, but now we have people saying, let s stop president trump before he even gets there. the man hasn t stopped working. how are you going to convince these people that donald trump was elected fair and square and let s give the man a chance. there s a couple things, judge. first, it is sad that eric trump worked so hard for st. jude s because the only people who lose are those children are the children of st. jude. it is sad because the losers are the people they worked so hard to help. getting to your question, look, on november 8, donald trump 130 straight trump 130 states. nine of 13 battleground states, over 2600 counties and flipped counties that barack obama carried in 2012. i m not sure how much more resounding of a win win you can get. the movement that he led spoke loud and clearly on election day more portly, to your point, since he took that stage at 2:50 am and talked about uniting all americans, he has worked tirelessly, not only to put together probably the most amazing cabinet ever seen, but to get results whether it s carrier or sprint and talking about thousands of jobs that he is personally working to bring back to this country, or saving the american taxpayers millions and billions of dollars through his work to lower the cost of on of air force one. a guy who is still 13 days from office still has a track record as president elect that most would like to have as president. jeanine: but sean, the positive that the president-elect can talk about are clear. i think that most people are blown away by the fact that the man is even working 247, but more importantly, it s not just democrat or progressive or left, it s almost anarchist or communist, revolutionary communists taking out ads thing we ve got to stop this man. is there concern for the inauguration? they re talking about protest, do whatever they can to stop donald trump. look, i think more more of these individuals are finding themselves in the minority. there will be a historic record of people because the movement that donald trump has led is a movement of change, a movement that finally taps into the frustration that so many american workers are finally saying thank you for in understanding what i ve been saying for so long and been so forgotten. i think that inauguration is going to be a historic one in that it won t just be an amazing day, but it will be the beginning of an amazing eight years for donald trump. at some point the facts will become overwhelming because the number of successes he has both domestically and internationally. at some point, you have to say wow, he has saved the job of a friend or family member. he has lifted up the wages, my healthcare has gone down and i can see the doctor i talked about. i have more educational choices. the inner cities are better. the roads and bridges and infrastructure are getting repaired the way they should of. jeanine: democrats, right now, are being so obstructionist that they re saying we ve got all of these ethical hurdles, before we even get to the confirmation hearing spread i ve never heard of these ethical procedures or hurdles that they have to overcome first. have you? no, you didn t didn t hear about him in 2008 when she chuck schumer voted 42 times to look the other way on democrats that will weren t seeking appointment in the obama administration. you didn t see them when the republicans voted seven of those nominees their confirmation votes on day one and five more the next time and 13 by voice well. republicans acted professionally and responsibly in 2008 and recognize that the president has an opportunity to have the people that are qualified to be in the cabinet. donald trump, as president elect has selected the most qualified cabinet in modern history, if not ever. i think they re getting split by schumer because he s trying to play a political game, but most democrats recognize that the movement wasn t just about republicans but it was about democrats and independents and many of their own constituents. you take a state like missouri where president electra carried it by 19 points but i don t think claire mccaskill is going to want to vote against that kind of overwhelming message when it comes to confirmation pics. not only are they qualified but she has to recognize that she has the answer to her constituents if she doesn t understand the change they voted for in missouri and other states around the country. jeanine: donald trump has an opportunity to continue to change the landscape of those elections going forward. sean, thanks so much for being with us. thank you. jeanine: i m joined by someone calling for protest against president-elect trump. this is a debate you are not going to want to miss. then the congressman is here to talk about the incoming administration as well as his home state of california and their curious move involving attorney general eric holder. are you worried about the russians hacking us? 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(laughter) i decided to go on ancestry to get my dna tested so i could find out more about my heritage. and i also found that i had a sister that i didn t know about because i m adopted. that was me. it was really exciting to find myself in someone else. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com countdown to inauguration day is still on, but some still refuse to accept the reality. my next guest is one of many attempting to delegitimize trump s presidency before it even begins. at the national spokesperson for the communist party in the united states. he joined me now. carl thanks for being on tonight. i was fascinated like many, with the ad in the new york times that said something like know in the name of humanity, we refuse to accept a fascist america. i m not wondering the read the whole thing but it pretty much says we have to stop the trump pens regime before it starts. we don t have a lot of time so i asked some direct questions. call, how are you going to stop the trump hands regime. he was elected fair and square. the electoral college has been certified. were getting ready to roll. what are you going to do to stop them. look, no election, fair or foul should legitimize a fascist regime, and that is what the trump pants regime is. donald trump campaigned as a fascist, he has assembled a team to carry out that fascist agenda, we ve seen this before. the demon nation. he spent the christmas holidays, a time that supposed to be peace on earth and will toward men talked tweeting about a new nuclear arms race. this is what he campaigned on, this is . jeanine: what about, you want to talk about delegitimizing. i have to be honest, donald trump is something i believe in. let me just say this. aren t you delegitimizing the election in the constitution because you don t like the guy. i don t like the guy, but what i don t like like is the agenda he campaigned on. jeanine: but he won. host: but that s what millions and millions of people don t like and they are right not to like it. we have seen this before. hitler came to power through legitimate means. jeanine: you re not comparing donald trump to hitler are you. right, he s different than hitler. he doesn t have that little black mustache, he has the orange squirrel on his head, but he has the agenda of a hitler. jeanine: carl we have to talk about the fascist quality of this regime. jeanine: why don t they have anxiety and fear before donald trump and he hasn t done anything. where is the ink anxiety and fear. it s based upon what he campaigned on. muslim registry. people who burn the flag should have citizenship taken away. this is illegitimate, and it also will be a form of rule that suppresses the civil liberty to fight against these. people have a right to be fearful and that is why we took out this ad and why we are calling on people. refuse fascism.org is calling on people to take to the streets, to display and manifest their refusal to accept jeanine: let s assume they do. what if people come into the streets and do what. come to the streets in washington d.c. where i will be and everywhere else and do everything to show their refusal to accept this regime. nonviolent civil disobedience. protesting in other ways. candlelight vigils. however people want to do it but business as usual in this society has got to be stopped to prevent the trump pence regime. jeanine: are you an anarchist or a communist. it s real clear. i told you i was a communist and i will come and talk too about communism. bring me on another show. jeanine: okay, alright. i wish we had more time. i will bring you on again. tonight i want to talk about stomping this fascist regime. jeanine: i m worried about how far you re willing to go. refuse fascism.org. jeanine: thank you. darrell darrell issa still ahead my friend is getting engaged today. that s so sweet. why would anyone get married but i want to serve justice on russian hacking. at judge justice like 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isis has held mosul from within two years. i am jackie yvonne yes and now back justice with judge jeanine. jeanine: as busy as we close in on just 12 days until the inauguration of our 45th president. joining me now is my political panel are old friends chairman republican strategist david allen and making his debut tonight democratic strategist and former consultant to the department of homeland security. thanks for joining us a gentleman. i want to start with the russian hacking issue and i will start with you david on the issue of whether or not their russian hacking issue is one that has given president-elect donald trump s decision to say you know there was some russian influence over the hacking. did he make a turnaround on this and was it enough? judge, america and did need vladimir putin to know that hillary clinton was corrupt and lying and believed she was above the law. it didn t ultimately impact the election just as in 1960 nikita khrushchev believed he influenced the election when he held you too pilots against his power and wouldn t release him. he believed that hurt nixon. he didn t hurt nixon s chances of getting elected and putin didn t hurt quentin s chances of getting elected. it s a lot about nothing. jeanine: hasn t everybody been spying on everybody for decades? isn t this what looks to read about all of a sudden we are so shocked? judge, you are right. we been spying on them and they been spying on us and this is done all the time but to actually weapon eyes the information, to put it out there to change the election results, to actually create fake news to hack into the system. jeanine: i have to stop you. there is nothing in those e-mails that was never contested c it s not just the e-mails that they put out. actually have russian tv which is television it networks that claimed the united states created neck a chamber to put fakeness information as well as e-mails. election staff. they talked about that the elections are rigged. they kept on putting information out there. that is a documented fact from both the fbi, the nsa and the cia who put out a detailed report. judge, let me jump in here second. jeanine: there s no discussion of any election machines or any numbers being impacted. c absolutely. a bigger impact here for want to talk about how a hack impacted the election although the opm records that got taken by some foreign government is now hundreds of thousands of government employees now have all of their records out there. we had a series of breaches of government servers that release personal data on people. the if it came to a point where americans to just started questioning was their personal safety secured and did this administration do enough and ultimately they decided no. they decided their economic security in their personal security were being taken care by this administration and that s why they said it s time to go in a different direction. look a bit at some point we are going to have to start putting our country head of our party. someone hacking into e-mails and releasing information, someone coming into our country to undermine our elections? we have crossed the line. had hillary clinton not have a server. president-elect donald trump, i will even say he s got a chance but the fact that the russians came in packs into our system and try to undermine elections, he s got to admit to that and you have to admit that and we have got to go on and start making them pay a price for that. jeanine: mustafa, didn t hillary clinton choose putin accuse putin of doing something like that and i hear he was giving even with her. david from are you familiar with that? vaguely. jeanine: go ahead. judge, look putin basically had a vendetta against her because she tried to expose him. she went to the u.n. and made a speech exposing the fact that he was rigging the election so she did her job as secretary of state showing the fact that putin was doing all sorts of underhanded things in terms of breaking their elections. he took it personal offense to it. he then came into the united states to undermine our elections not only to spy on us but to basically create a news channel in our country to use social media. c what voting machines at rates that impacted the results? what voting machine got rates that truly jeanine: thank you for being with us. street justice still ahead and congressman darryl issa, next. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing? yes, yes! live whole. not part. aleve. that newly listed ranch and wait will be gone.ed for a mortgage, or, you could push that button. sfx: rocket launching. skip the bank. get approved in minutes. lift the burden of getting a home loan with rocket mortgage by quicken loans. (whisper) rocket joining me to talk about that a more republican congressmen darryl issa senior member of the house foreign affairs committee. do they even know what they are hiring him to fight with trump about? no, they really don t judge. i can t believe i said that. long long story and i will tell you later but judge cometh one of those amazing things. they are hiring him for the same reason when i became chairman of the oversight committee they increase their staff at the white house in a way of lawyers even before i had asked for the first piece of information. for whatever reason the left-leaning, far left legislature in california wants to fight this administration on anything and everything so they can keep doing what they are doing. jeanine: is in california broke? they are certainly upside down. they have the highest income tax the nation, 13.3%, 8.5 plus% sales tax and they have a budget deficit and businesses are leaving california. one of the greatest states to work and live in except for the government we have. jeanine: you question whether eric holder should even be practicing law, congressman. well it s the only constitutional officer ever held in contempt by congress. he lied to congress and in fact withheld information. we haven t missed him since he left because in fact he was somebody that had no respect for the law they were sworn to defend. jeanine: this retainer into law firm firm that he is in washington d.c. do we have any idea how big it is? well i suspect it s in the seven figures. jeanine: seven s. in millions? in the millions. air colder doesn t come cheap. he is quite a name and he s a rainmaker there but again this is somebody who lying to congress should have lost his bar license. jeanine: interesting that he didn t. let s move onto donald trump and what he s done even before the white house. the latest this week s ford and we heard about carrier a few weeks ago and now ford. you have got mark fields mark fields was talking about the ford plant in what they are doing. i had dinner with mark fields in las vegas at the consumer electronics electronic show just last night. he s excited about a better business climate one in which ford can make investments in the united states and have them pay off and that s a result of this election. you are going to see other companies do that as you say even before president trump is sworn in the part of that is the same reason the stock market has gone up more than 1000 points. they are things you do in anticipation of a good market in their things you do it in anticipation of a government that s not going to be friendly. right now the stock market and ford motor company are gearing up for a better economy one in which we have lower taxes, lower government spending and a pro-business environment that creates jobs in america. jeanine: there would be no subsidies or anything offered? this was a good business decision made by one of the great industrial companies of the world. jeanine: people in michigan even if they didn t vote for him i guess they would benefit, those union s? the rank-and-file workers at or motor company a great many of them voted for donald trump even though the union was saying not to. tonight i think they are very happy that they did. jeanine: congressman i think we are going to see a lot more americans happy with donald trump. anyway congressman darryl issa even though you didn t get my name right, thanks for being with us tonight. thank you, judge. jeanine: the first justice of 2017 straight ahead. stay with us. want powerful relief. only new alka-seltzer plus free of artificial dyes and preservatives liquid gels delivers the powerful cold symptom relief you need without the unnecessary additives you don t. loudspeaker: clean up, aisle 4. alka-seltzer plus liquid gels. wheyou wantve somto protect it.e, at legalzoom, our network of attorneys can help you every step of the way. with an estate plan including wills or a living trust that grows along with you and your family. legalzoom. legal help is here. still trying to find how ara good site.going? 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no, i m not. are you on your break? do you want me to leave? are the russians hacking us? i don t know. do you care? not really. why is congress having hearings on the? they want to distract the public i guess. what are you focused on? money. do you remember the hunt for red october? do remember sean connery do you think we do that kind of thing? no. no, of course not so why is congress having a hearing about hacking? democrats are not happy about trump and they have to do whatever they can. are you worried about the russians hacking us? i m not worried at all. all of a sudden russia is a big enemy of the united states of america. what s the problem? the reason is the democrats lost and they are trying to come up with a reason. that s so sweet. why would anyone get married? are you married? 16 lovely years. i had 16 lovely years too. you were getting married? why? why? are you getting married? do you know someone is getting engaged to your? today? they are putting a sign up. they just told me. i m not lying. you are getting married. why? 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wall, paul. and the threats. he s been terrific. now if he ever goes against me, i won t say that, okay? when all in starts right now. good evening from new york. i m chris hayes. in 37 days donald trump will become president of these united states. we have breaking news tonight. two senior intelligence officials tell nbc news that russian president vladimir putin was involved in efforts to disrupt the u.s. presidential election. that conclusion is based on intelligence from diplomatic sources and others including spies working for america s allies. that comes on top of growing consensus in the intelligence community in the u.s. that russia was behind multiple large scale attacks on democratic institutions and operatives producing fodder for countless embarrassing and politically damaging stories at the height of the presidential election. the in the just had amazing reporting on the alleged scope of the russia cyber attacks which targeted the democratic national committee chairman podesta and also a dozen house candidates. regardless of whether russia meant to help elect trump is still among dispute among different agency, his government succeeded in influencing the outcome of the u.s. election. president obama has ordered a fuel review of the role in the election. there s now bipartisan support in the senate for some type of investigation. joining me national security reporter ken delany. and i guess my first response to this story was how could they possibly know this? so it seems, you know, explosive to say that putin was personally supervising this, but this is two intelligence officials off the record. there s some sort of grain of salt i always attach t anything, you know, anonymous from the intelligence community. how could they possibly know this? that s certainly a fair question, chris. thanks for having me, by the way. the short answer is we don t exactly know. but we know or were told that they are reviewing this information with high confidence. and we re told it s coming from liaisons, from other intelligence sources, people presumably with access to putin or the russian regime. that s all we know. so part of the story here is there s a forensic story about who did this and then there s a kind of whole chain, right, who did it, what was their connection to the russian state, how much were they how closely were they directed, there were some beginning theories that maybe this was just a rogue element or a bunch of people that got out over their skis and before you know it they re inside the dnc. this is all sort of a settling this chain is the work that the intelligence apparatus is doing right now. exactly. and we re sort of looking through an opaque glass trying to figure out through bits and pieces of reporting what exactly they know. and what you describe as the forensic case, which a private firm initially made is that, hey, the malware and the hacks that we re seeing into the democratic national committee can be traced back to these russian entities. that doesn t tell us anything about who was in the russian fairly general, but we re told that he was involved in directing how to use the leaked material, which is fairly specific. that is fascinating. ken dilanian. i m joined by ed mcmullen, a former cia operations officer. there s a crazy subtext that s happening here in terms of the intelligence agencies and the cia. donald trump s people seem to think that he s anti-donald trump and they have it out for him. what do you say to their people who say that? well, obviously, there s a natural conflict there. people at the cia understand what a threat vladimir putin are to global security and to the united states, to our security, to the integrity of our democratic system. and so they re opposed to what donald trump is trying to impose upon our country, which is a relationship with the very country that is undermining our democracy. i have to say with regard to whether putin would have directed this or not, of course he knew about it and of course it s a big, big deal in the kremlin and they re celebrating right now. are you part of the problem, right, is ascertaining the confidence that all these links in the chain are there, right? and again, this is you re shaking your head. you just think it s so obvious. it s just so look, i understand i come from this world so i understand how these things work and those of us in the intelligence community just know these things because we ve seen them play out in other situations. we know that russia does this in europe all the time. this is not a new strategy or a new playbook. this is what russia does to undermine democracies in europe. now they re doing it in the united states. it s the russian-backed trolls, it s the hacks, it s the support for the white nationalist, white supremacist movement. it s finding a country in a democratic country like ours that is sympathetic to the russian or the putin way of his authoritarianism and his white nationalism and all of this and promoting them through these other means. i mean, it s mr. playbook. and they did it here in the united states, it s clear. if this is the case, if this is what happened, what does this mean? it means that it means that, you know, our fragile democracy and it is fragile and we need to fight hard to keep it. our founders knew that would be the case. i think we re a little asleep at the wheel these days or have been as americans. it means that we as americans need to stand up and demand that our elected leaders in congress, and we must do the same, hold our system accountable, our elected representatives accountable and oppose donald trump s planned alignment with russia. there s a reason why we have opposed russia on the global stage. it s not arbitrary. russia is an adversary, the liberty, freedom and basic rights across the globe and here in the united states. and we have stood up to them with our partners, with our allies, our free allies in europe and it s important that we continue to do that for the cause of liberty here and abroad. do you think that the president of the united states should say something on the record about all this? well, he has said some things and i think certainly at a time when he judges it to be the right time, he should. we need leadership in the country especially on this issue. i imagine that he s dealing with a lot of very sensitive considerations, very classified considerations that it s hard for you and i sitting here to make a judgment about what he should say or shouldn t say. certainly, we need leadership. certainly the american people need information. i ll say that i think our electors they deserve to be briefed on what they can be briefed on with regard to what russian has done in the election and in related ways since then. so they need all the information they can get so that they can perform their constitutional duties. let me ask you this. you know, there s a statement, this sort of extraordinary statement. i don t think i ve ever seen anything like it in the time i ve been coveri politics. after the reporting had broken that basically late friday night that the cia had come to this conclusion that this was done and not just done to kind of create mischief but explicitly for this electoral outcome to beat hillary clinton and the president-elect put out a statement that says these are the people that got iraq wrong and i had this you re grimacing even at that statement. i mea you work for the cia. what is that relationship like now? the president-elect has called war on them, called them out. what is that going to be like? it s going to be a very troubled relationship. but the american people end up being the losers. i m not sure if donald trump had the information that the cia would give him or wants to give him, if that would make him make wise decisions. i m not sure it would. so i don t know. maybe it s a wash. but look, i ll tell you, americans need to understand this. the cia gives advice to senior policymakers. the president, of course, included chief among them. and does a variety of assessments every day all day long. hundreds of them. that s the reality. and they deal in an uncertain world, the world we live in. and that s why we have them. we have them to connect the dots. sometimes they re not right. most of the time they are. because they re very they re very conscientious and conservative in the assessments they make most of the time. now, people talk about mistakes that are made and times they were wrong, those are the times when things become well known, but assessments that they make every day tend to be correct. for a president to say i don t want any of that, is just reckless and just plain stupid. evan mcmullin. much more ahead on this and other stuff. knew today we also got big news from the man who will be running the security apparatus. retired general michael flynn generosity is its own form of power. get your mind out of the gutter. mornings are for coffee and contemplation. that was a really profound observation. you got a mean case of the detox blues. don t start a war you know you re going to lose. finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. on xfinity x1. who donald trump has named as his national security adviser. that s not a position that requires senate confirmation unless trump rescinds the offer flynn will be his national security whisperer in the white house. today s news puts what flynn said on the campai trail and in the republican national convention in a different light. when he called on hillary clinton to drop out of the race because she, quote, put our nation s security at extremely high risk. lock her up. lock her up. [ crowd chanting lock her up. ] you guys are good. damn right. exactly right. there s nothing wrong with that. [ crowd chanting lock her up ] and you know why? you know why we re saying that? we re saying that because if i, a guy who knows this business, if i did a tenth, a tenth of what she did, i would be in jail today. this was, of course, the trump campaign s main attack on clinton, particularly in the campaign s final days, this idea that she belonged in jail because she used private e-mail servers as secretary of state potentially compromising classified information and putting national security at risk. didn t matter. the fbi investigated the matter, concluded no charges should be filed. trump threatened to jail her if elected. and those lock her up chants became a staple of the politics. the washington post reporting that michael flynn who again helped lead those locker up chants was the subject of a secret u.s. military information in 2010 that determined that flynn inappropriately shared classified information with foreign military officers in afghanistan. flynn was not disciplined because investigators concluded he didn t act knowingly and ultimately didn t damage national security. but of course, the fbi came to a not dissimilar determination about hillary clinton. and flynn, knowing what he knew, still called for her to be thrown in jail. we reached out today to the house oversight and government reform chair jason chaffetz to see if he would investigate flynn for risking classified information as vigorously as he did clinton. we did not hear back. this is not the first red flag for flynn that has stated his views. he tweeted about clinton s involvement in sex crimes involving children. jeanne shaheen and richard blumenthal have requested an official review of flynn s security clearance citing today s report in a separate incident in which he disclosed information to pakistan and that he, and i m quoting, had technicians secretly install an internet connection in his pentagon office even though it was forbidden. he s become the main funnel for security information to a president who you ll recall has been skipping his intelligence briefings because, as trump said, i m like a smart person. joining me now, michael steele, former chair of the republan national committee. the lock her up thing, i mean, it s amazing the parallels, right? yeah. so hillary clinton does this thing that violates protocol. she s investigating. the finding is, yeah, she violated protocol but she didn t knowingly compromise national security, she s okay. but the argument was that she knowingly violated that protocol right. and general flynn did the same thing. no. they said he did not know he had violated this protocol. and that s the difference. you think it s perfectly fine that the one-tenth rule here that he leads lock her up chants at the rnc for a woman who has been cleared by the fbi. right. who says even after being cleared by the fbi the political opponent should be put in prison despite the fact that he did this and he also had a secret internet connection installed in his pentagon office. yeah, well, look, i can t speak to all of that in terms of what he did while he was in the office, but i can speak to the politics of being at a national convention and getting in that fired-up space and using that chant. we all know that that chant was not one of the best chants out there because it doesn t speak to who we are as americans. we don t lock people up as political prisoners, per se. well, who knows, right? and we re not. and we re not. come on, stop it. but michael, let me ask you this, if you had to bet after election day that you would still hear lock her up after trump had won, at a rally in wisconsin, doesn t that surprise you? no, it doesn t. no, it doesn t. because the carryover from this election goes beyond what we ve seen in the past. the voters in this election cycle have been more fervent than we ve seen in a generation in terms of their passion to make their decision stick. and they feel and to imprison their political enemies. no, i don t think they re talking literally at this point. donald trump himself has said that s not going to happen. he s not going to do that. so i think that that is sort of rehashing some of that passion and that fervor and that spirit. now, you know, again, we re still waiting. i think a lot of people are. to see how donald trump does message that transition that he s talked about wanting to do with the american people on these subjects. and whether or not he does that at the inauguration, whether he does that between now and then or immediately afterwards remains to be seen, but that s going to be up to him whether or not that chant has any more legs beyond this moment. let me ask you about leon panetta because flynn s got obviously the guy who seems to have trump s ear on intelligence. trump saying he s not taking these intelligence briefings, he s a smart guy, doesn t want to hear the same thing every day. this is what leon panetta said. if the intelligence official had indications or information regarding that attack and the president did not want to listen to that, for whatever reason, the responsibility for that would go on the president. i think that s fair. i think donald trump needs to revisit that line of thinking. no one is questioning your smarts here, sir. no one is questioning your ability to digest the information. yes, you know what, being president is boring as hell because you got to sit down and do the hard work. i mean, it s hard. no one appreciates that unless you ve been in that space and understand what those individuals go through. those briefings are there for a reason. and i would really hope that the president-elect would take to heart the sincerity and the importance of doing that because stuff happens. minutia happens. little things happen in the spate of hours while you rest that make a difference on the decisions you make the next day. and it s important that you understand what that minutia is so that you can make the right decisions. it s funny you say this. it s almost like you re saying details matter which is something one of the presidential candidates said. michael steele. you got it, buddy. aleppo, syria, has become synonymous with war-torn misery particularly over the last several months. it was once a bustling metropolis. so much so that a travel piece in the new york times we discovered old homes transformed into small hotels or restaurants with the cuisine some of the most memorable i ve tasted in the middle east. these are images of syria s largest city with its open air markets and bustling town squares and ancient landmarks, a mix of east and west, people lived together in relative peace though under the thumb of the assad regime. one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world. this is what aleppo looks like today. described by france s u.n. ambassadors a, quote, the worst humanitarian trgedy of the 21st century. those loyal to assad and militias have all but crushed anti-government rebels. the u.n. human rights office has cited accounts of women and children being burned alive and families choosing suicide over surrender. we should note independent var fick kags of these accounts is impossible at this moment. rebel fighters were due to leave aleppo as part of a cease-fire agreement. however air strikes continued trapping tens of thousands of civilians. late this afternoon several news outlets began reporting the cease-fire agreement was back on. u.s. ambassador to the united nations samantha power addressed the crisis in aleppo yesterday. to the assad regime, russia and iran, your forces and proxies are carrying out these crimes. your barrel bombs and mortars anair strikes have allowed the militia in aleppo to encircle tens of thousands of civilians in your ever-tightening noose. it is your noose. three member states of the u.n. contributing to a noose around civilians. are you truly incapable of shame? is there literally nothing that can shame you? joining me now correspondent for nbc news. everything that i ve seen out of aleppo is just horrifying in the extreme. you have civilians. it s been under siege for a long time. they re now trapped. there s fear there will be retributions that rape will be used as a tool of war they will be burned slaughtered and killed. is there anything that can be done in the microsense to ensure the safety of those individuals there? wow, that s a million dollar question. i think samantha power and others would probably be better suited to answer that question from a diplomatic perspective. anything short of an international intervention on humanitarian grounds whether it be from neighboring countries or the united nations if they can come to some kind of consensus, i don t see anything slowing down the syrian government or its russian allies or its proxy fighters through the iranians and others. they ve made very clear they re going to continue with this assault until they have, in their eyes, liberated the city from what they describe as terrorists. obviously the opposition groups and the rebel groups are saying this is going to amount to a genocide because the reports that are coming out of there based on these activists account is what you describe, nothing short of massacres, nothing short of, you know, what they re saying is genocide. and i have to say that the reporters that i trust in that part of the world who i don t think are propagandists who are closest and approximate to what s happening there, does really seem to be horrendous. they don t just put it out there very quickly. they try to verify it. i ve been in touch with a lot of people at amnesty international who through their own work on the ground are trying to verify these accounts, speaking to people, a lot are making their way out to turkey. they re getting first person accounts of what is happening and what they re seeing. the assad regime reuniting the kind of spine of the most populated cities in syria. and the war really turned around when russian intervention became more muscular. i think that s a fair thing to say. you can actually make the argument that the war turned around when the united states didn t follow its red line policy. when the united states had drawn the red line and there was that chemical attack by the syrian government on some of the rebel positions, at that point the russians, backed by hezbollah fighters on the ground, the iranians sending their cash and other resource, it changed overnight, you could see that unfolding on the ground. people are addressing them to putin, to russia. they see themselves as much under siege by russia in fact, it was russia announcing today their ambassador to the u.n. was saying that essentially we have taken back aleppo. and we ll be ceasing military operations. this war was won and lost in the air. there s only one major superpower in the air and that s the russian air force. the americans and all the other countries that fought were bombing isis held territories to the east. the russians and the syrian air force barrel bombed and attacked rebel held areas. and the russian complicity in what has been described as war crimes and massacres, huge amounts of civilian deaths, young kids are being covered in dust inned or to be presented as victims of bombings. they ve been waging this propaganda campaign that everything you see is the propaganda of anti-assad forces. if you monitor syrian state television, which i do. you ll see that they re presenting a different picture. they re showing as the syrian army moves in, they re greeted by the local as liberators. thank you, you saved us from this terror. there s no doubt that propaganda is an element of this war, but what you re seeing, even the images put out by the russian various news agencies that are working, the syrian military footage, it shows complete destruction of the eastern part of the aleppo. it is something apocalyptic. annihilation. look at that. why does russia care so much? i think for two reasons. one, they have the naval base. but i don t think that s enough for them to get involved. i think this is geopolitics, this is russia saying to the americans you cannot just run shot in the middle east. we had a country that was a very close ally to us. that is our proxy. we ll intervene and fight in there. russia has an interest in keeping the presidency of assad, particularly iran, because they want that conduit to get through hezbollah for creating that regional umbrella between them and israel if they were ever to have a confederation of military activities. that s one of the reasons why iran is invested in preserving the regime of assad. and russia wants to protect him as well. a lot of terrified, desperate, hungry, embattled people in aleppo at this moment. let me remind all of you the senate intelligence committee on which i and the chairman of the committee sit are conducting a complete review of this matter. i m joined by dick durban, democrat from illinois. let me start by asking what you want to see done. what are you calling for in response to what we now know appear to be rusan government-backed hackers interfering in the election? . let s not minimize the gravity of this charge. that a foreign government tried to influence the election in the united states of america is serious business. if we discovered that some foreign country had spent million of doors secretly in the campaign, yeed be outraged. turns out what the russians are accused of doing is even worse. trying to disclose information from e-mails and other sources and influencing the outcome of the campaign. what we need is a bipartisan select committee that takes this charge as seriously as it should. bipartisan select committee, your colleague ben cardin called for something modeled on the 9/11 committee. there s been resistance from republican colleagues who want to just go through the regular intelligence committee in the senate or the house. why is a regular committee investigation of this not sufficient? i can just tell you that that doesn t reach the level of seriousness, and i think the dedication of our government to getting to the bottom of this is critically important. let s put aside who won the election, how they won the election. let s understand what happened here. we have credible information from our top intelligence agencies that the government of russia tried to influence the outcome of the united states election. that is a serious charge. and it shouldn t be routine business in the intelligence committees of the senate and the house. do you think the intelligence committees have come to a consensus conclusion on the motivation as of now? it seems like the cia believes it was actively trying to help donald trump become elected. there s some dissension on whether that was the motivation. what is your belief? i don t know anything more than reported in the papers, and that s the reason why we need this serious inquiry. i had eight other senators join me in a letter to mr. clapper the other day asking to disclose as much as possible unclassified information before january 20th, calling on the attorney general to initiate an investigation into the department of justice as well with professional longtime employees at the department of justice. i think it s reached that level of seriousness, and i hope that the new president as well as the new leaders in congress, both republicans, will take it as seriously themselves. what is the president-elect s responsibility on this issue in your mind? you have to understand our relationship with russia. it s a mixed relationship. when it came to the iran nuclear agreement, russia played a positive role. when it comes to what they re doing in ukraine, we are resisting them and imposing sanctions. so this is a country and a leader that we have to watch very carefully. and the fact that they would try to interject themselves into an election where mr. trump during the course of the election was saying positive things about mr. putin is worrisome to everyone, at least it should be. let s get to the bottom of it. this kind of cyber warfare in the political realm is unacceptable in a democracy and the united states has to get to the bottom of it. based on the reporting that you ve read and there s that long new york times piece which is quite revealing, do you think that the current president, president obama did enough to sort of sound the alarms about this while it was happening during the election? well, you have to take care. with the exception of jim comey s statement 11 days before the election, you really tried to take care of the last month of the election not to tip the balance one way or the other. that isn t fair to the candidates who were involved in the race here. i m sure what president obama felt is they get to the bottom of this, they bring the information together and a serious information would follow. so i don t know all the moves made by this administration, but i can understand why they didn t want to try to tip the scales on this presidential race. do you think the alleged russian interference which is the consensus view that it was russia of the various intelligence agencies, there seems to be pretty good evidence of that, do you think that tips the scales, that would be decisive in the outcome of this election? i can t honestly answer that. no one can. but apparently they were selective in the e-mails they hacked into and disclosed to the public trying to put out as much bad information as they could about hillary clinton and her campaign. they knew who they wanted to elect and it wasn t hillary clinton. so there was an effort under way. how much did it influence in an election decided by 80,000 voters in three stat, who can tell out of the millions of votes cast? senator dick durbin of illinois, thank you for joining me and appreciate it. thank you. donald trump puts 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loss of hearing or vision, or an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis. last night house speaker paul ryan was met with boos when he took the stage, a rally with donald trump in front of christmas trees. when trump himself got on stage a few minutes later and mentioned ryan, the crowd booed again. trump tried to stop it mostly. speaker paul ryan, i ve really come to a oh, no, i ve come to appreciate him. speaker paul ryan. where is the speaker? where is he? he has been i ll tell you, he s been terrific. and you know, honestly? he s like a fine wine. every day goes by, i get to appreciate his genius more and more. now, if he ever goes against me, i m not going to say that, okay? he s a great guy. and we have some amazing things in store. and we re going to work on taxes, we re going to work on obamacare. we re going to work on things, and he s going to lead the way. so thank you. we re going to work on the wall, paul. joining me now, former campaign manager for mitt romney and an msnbc contributor. that was kind of an amazing moment. it felt like a ritual humiliation. donald trump, let s just be clear who is calling the shots here. yeah, it did sort of feel like that. but make no mistake, paul ryan is very, very popular in wisconsin. he might not be particularly popular with the people that show up for a big trump rally, but he wins overwhelmingly in his district and has very high approval ratings in the state of wisconsin. just a strange dynamic that goes on there with the people that attend a trump rally. but he doesn t i totally agree with you, this is a self-selecting crowd. but the broader question is what is the political calculus for republicans if and when they go against donald trump? and this applies to a million different things. whether donald trump does something that flagrantly violates the constitution or just does something that they don t like from a policy perspective, what political price will they pay? it s a very, very high price to pay because trump and his hard core supporters tend to bring a gun to a knife fight. and a lot of politicians aren t really prepared for that kind of battle. so they re going to look at this very, very carefully. they re not going to just casually walk into a big battle with donald trump. and it can be a little bit hard to predict what the battles that he decides to wage. so there s going to be a lot of walking on egg shells come 2017. i think that s well said. interesting he said we re working on obamacare. clearly mitch mcconnell is champing at the bit for that as well as paul ryan, some sort of obamacare repeal. cut taxes, which i think mcconnell and ryan are excited about as well. then the wall, paul, we re going to work on the wall. that s where it s going to be very interesting to see how these different things get ordered and what moves through that congress first and how much it s paul ryan and how much it s donald trump. and also and what does that mean? because even donald trump in some of his officials have walked back a little bit from their comments during the campaign about a wall. there s been talk about well, maybe it s not a physical wall. maybe it s a virtual wall. what we ve seen is that there are a lot of issues where donald trump feels very comfortable kind of walking back from the really heated rhetoric of the campaign and saying, well, that s not exactly what i meant. you take me too literally. we ll see if what he ultimately proposes is a giant physical structure between the u.s. and mexico. can you imagine a scenario in which there is actually an out in the open fight? i mean, i m really curious about how long this sort of we re all on the same team is going to last, for two reasons. one is i think there are different policy preferences. different political objectives. i wonder at what point the normal rules of political gravity start to apply. donald trump is the least popular president-elect in the history of recent polling. he s defied it for the entirety of the campaign. maybe he ll continue to do that forever. maybe. i don t know. no one knows. but you wonder whether marginal house members start to worry if that continues. and the challenge that he s going to face come january is that he s used to being a ceo that just calls the shots. and he did that during the campaign. he was able to trust his gut during the campaign. but that s not how our government is set up. our government is set up to have a system of checks and balances. he s going to have to win the approval from a majority in the house and the senate. and, you know, it s not always going to be easy saing as you mention on all of these issues. the first time like you said, gun to a knife fight. the first time he doesn t get his way he ll be on twitter calling whoever blocked him out publicly and that s when, you know, that s when we ll see how this all shakes out. well, and as i know somebody that opposed trump in the primaries, his supporters can be very vitriolic and very threatening. there will be stories about that as they rise to his defense. katie packer, thanks. thanks. the agency that stood up to the trump administration and won. more on that ahead. plus inauguration planning reaches new levels of desperation. it s tonight s thing 1, thing 2. consideration this year. also, many school bands in the surrounding counties opted not to apply to participate in trump s inauguration. local universities also did not apply. and it s not just local bands. the trump inaugural committee is also reportedly having trouble finding a-list celebrities to perform at any of the inaugural events. as of today there s only one entertainer who is definitely booked to perform. that s singer jackie evancho who rose to popularity on tv. i have recently been asked by the president-elect to perform the national anthem for the swearing-in ceremony at the inauguration. and i m so excited. it s going to be awesome. incredibly exciting. that is so far jackie evancho, the only performer who is definitely playing a trump inauguration gig. with just 37 days until the inauguration to go, the committee in charge of finding more performers is reportedly getting pretty desperate. thing 2, according to the rap, president-elect donald trump s team is struggle so hard to book a-list performers, it offered ambassadorships to at least two talent bookers if they could deliver marquee names. the first insider said he was shocked at the proposal, never in a million years have i heard something so crazy, he said. that was the moment i almost dropped the phone. the second insider said he was offered a government post including an ambassadorship if he could wrangle an artist. trump s team deny the report. there is no truth to this insinuation, committee spokesman boris epstein. first class entertainers are eager to participate in the events. inauguration will be an exciting uniting celebration of democracy. also keep an eye on those ambassador announcements. the trump transition team virtually knocking on doors at the department of energy to find out who in the civil service did something they re duty-bound to do as part of their jobs, go to meetings and work on it as part of the obama administration. then something amazing happened. the bureaucrats at the department of energy said no. on the question of providing names, energy officials resolutely rejected the request while reassuring workers. and here s the most amazing thing. it looks like they won for now. the trump transition team saying in a statement, the questionnaire was not authorized or part of our standard protocol. the person who sent it has been properly counseled. this is stunning considering the only other real backtrack from the trump transition team was firing general michael flynn s son, michael g. flynn, for tweeting fake news about pizzagate on the day a man with a gun showed up to the pizzeria in question. now the transition team has backed off demanding names of energy department employees involved in climate change work. climate science is already so threatened by the incoming administration that scientists are literally copying u.s. climate data fearing it might vanish under president trump. one of those trying to protect vital data is ben houlton, director of the john muir institute. i saw this story today and it struck me. first, what exactly are you doing? it s a great question. i don t think there s any way the sugarcoat it that the climate science community is hurt and feeling rejected by the president-elect trump s moves. it s almost as if trump is cooking up this amazing thanksgiving meal and we re over at the kid table. we want to be at the adult table. why do we want to be there? we want to be there to share the good news that climate change is a job creator. responding with climate solutions gives rise to all sorts of economic opportunities for people in this country. we don t want to miss out on that. as a community we re coming together to develop new cooperative ways to get that message out to the public, to make sure that they understand that this is about them, this is about their future, and it s about the here and now. okay. i get the positive message here. but what you re doing, i understand, is copying data that you re afraid that an incoming administration would either manipulate or delete? i can t speak to that general issue since i myself am not involved in copying those data, but i am trying to make sure that we protect climate science in every way possible. being in california, we have this tremendous opportunity to work with our local government here, with governor brown and the university of california system we re seeing this ground level upswell of climate scientists coming together and basically recognizing that we need to be empowered. and this is a call to arms. this is a call to action for us to develop new ways to make sure that we re protecting climate research for people on the planet. that s what we care most about. how important is the federal government and people in the civil service to the things that we know about the climate? i mean, how much of that is coming from a federal government that will now be run by someone who has said that it s all a chinese hoax? it s true that the federal government plays a huge role especially when you look at the paris agreement but also in the sort of knowledge of climate change that s what i mean, the data. absolutely. how much are we dependent on different people in the federal government whether it s the stuff we have at noaa, whether the obseratory we have at hawaii, what nasa does, how much depends on the federal government? a tremendous amount of it does. that s under threat right now. so if you look at nasa or noaa or the u.s. geological survey. they re providing all sorts of climate data that can help us provide solutions to grow food without those crops failing because of climate change and so on and so forth. it is under threat. we do this as a superimportant message that we hope president-elect trump understands. climate science is vital to national security. how under threat it is? i guess we haven t been in these territories before. but how much could it be the case that a new administration would just say to the department of energy or the epa, yeah, we re just going to get rid of all of these parts of the government that do all these readings that produce this, what we believe is a hoax? i mean, it s certainly hard to quantify exact what that would look like and to the extent that the executive can kind of come in and determine these things, but you know, this isn t without precedent when bush two came to ourself, there was an assault on climate change at that time. we were able to get through that time period by local, state action. we re hoping we can do the same now. but this is a national treasure. i would hope everyone in your audience understands that climate science is a treasure for our kids, for our planet and for our future. you have colleagues at uc davis who are actually doing this sort of copying of data. to folks that hear that, how under the gun do the people in your community and i know a lot of climate scientists who already feel under the gun, frankly, because they spent their life working on this. how under the gun do you feel right now? look, i ve had more conversations with climate scientists. and what are climate scientists, they re lawyer, doctors, every member of ow society has a stake. we re all coming together in new ways at uc davis in particular we re developing a new initiative to connect people across all disciplines. all right. but climate change doesn t know politics. when the sea level rises, it doesn t decide to go to a democrat or republican house. right. we need to really make sure this is understood by the broader public. all right.
doing it in the dead of night. bret: that is it for the report. fair, balanced, and unafraid. tucker is next. tucker: we have the fox news alert, a gunman is shot and leaving others shot. we begin our show with a fox national correspondent he was live on the scene in florida. we receive on lockdown from the broward county sheriff s department. going through grudges, checking every single vehicle as well as every square inch of the property that includes all four terminals as well as the tarmac s. there helicopters with spotlights tonight fighting over the runway is making sure there is nothing suspicious out there. passengers. the deck below me here at terminal 2 is where the baggage claim area is and around 1:00, that is when about 4 minutes of carnage were released when witnesses say they named it shooter suspect in this case, esteban santiago, and to baggage claim, got his luggage, and then went into the bathroom, took his gun out of the luggage out of the lockbox, which he had packed and checked in anchorage, alaska, to fly via minneapolis to fort lauderdale, they loaded the gun, and went out into the baggage claim area and started shooting people. 13 people shot, blood everywhere, five people dead, and eight people wounded and currently being treated at broward county hospitals. then it seemed like the airport was kind of starting to settle down, but then, 45 minutes later was absolute panic and terror again as there were reports of shots in the garage, fought the mecca s.w.a.t. teams running in with heavily armed. across the runways with their luggage, running as far away from airport property as possible because there were other reports that others heard gunshots and terminal 1. the sheriff says none of that was actually gunfire. there is only one shooting instance today and that was the 1:00 according to witnesses which lasted about 4 minutes, 13 people were shot, eight wounded, five brutally murdered, and of e law enforcement that responded fired no weapons. they order the government onto the ground, he surrendered, was handcuffed, and insulin custody since shortly after 1:00. at the latest on his personal background, his brother and mother to the new york daily news, he is being treated for mental health recently. law enforcement sources are telling fox news that in november of last year, so two months ago, he went into the anchorage, alaska fbi field office saying that u.s. intelligence was planting devices in his brain. it may check to mel, put him on their list, said they found no connection to terror. it was an absolute terrorizing two hours for these hundreds of thousands of travelers here today. tucker? tucker: thank you so much. what a sad story. we are joined by fox news national security correspondent who has more on the gunmen tonight. jennifer? i just got off the phone with law enforcement sources here in washington who tell me that the gunmen flied demonic flu first class. not only by the fbi, but also the army cid, that s the criminal investigative division. we know that he served and alaska and in alaska narration demonic national guard in august of 2016 pure 2016 fod serve one tour in iraq, that was from 2010-2011, february 2011. i would know that that was not a very active time in iraq. that was just before they pulled out at the end of that year. he was a combat engineer, he was separated from the national guard from the alaska national guard for performance we are told by the spokesman out in alaska. he joined the national guard, the puerto rican national guard and 2007 and that is when he deployed to iraq. his family says, has told reporters, he did suffer some mental problems after returning from iraq and what we do know and met dean our producer asked the justice department has talked to law enforcement sources who have confirmed that in november, he did go into an fbi field office in anchorage, not far from where he was livin living, and he did say that he was having, he believed the u.s. intelligent had infiltrated his mind trying to convince them to join isis and forcing him to watch isis videos as bill keating just reported. that s when fbi turned him over to law enforcement and law enforcement had him taken to be mentally checked out at a hospital and at that point, the fbi and department of homeland security opened and enter agency review, they looked into his background, they began talking to his family members, but they did not find any connection to foreign terrors overseas at that time. back to you tucker. tucker: jennifer, things a lot for that. congress confirmed president trump s by accepting his electoral votes. at that did not stop a group of democrats in congress from setting up a taxpayer the protecting our democracy act will give a full 18 months to look into the matter. congressman, thank you so much for coming on. thank you for having me back. tucker: we talked to you last month and you made it case for this commission and your point was look, there s a lot we don t know. there is a lot we do know with the delivery of this report. why do we need your commission? the public report that the white house put out made clearer than ever that russia attacked our democracy. it was ordered by vladimir putin and they intend, and other countries likely, want to attack again. we joined this effort to say let s find an infant dependent way to find out why this happened, why are we so vulnerable, and let s make sure we don t let this happen again. tucker: the report said that the russians planned to harm hillary clinton. and the russians were gathering information to use against her should she win. i assume use except that findin finding, shouldn t we find how they penetrated her server, which seems to be the least protected piece of electronic in the united states, that was not mentioned in the report. i haven t heard any democrats mention that, if you get this panel, should she be subpoenaed on that question? is a bipartisan effort. republicans and democrats want to get the bottom of the truth. this is about making sure our elections belong to us. the committee should have a wide scope and looking at what russia did to try and undermined our election. i m not going to prejudge the results. tucker: two points. you say replicants have signed on to this? i continue to reach out to republicans. the commission would be a bipartisan appointed. it would be republican and democrat appointed. i still believe that republicans accept that we were hacked. john mccain held a hearing yesterday accepting that. i would like to take this out of congress, have members fully devote themselves to finding out once and for what happened because after all, the president-elect doesn t even accept that russia attacked our elections. this gun can i you there? there s something very disingenuous about you continuing to say you want to take this out of the political world. with a russian friendly president taking office january, it s important to make we are strong. that is suggesting that he is pro-russian. obama was president. you are very busy. if you tucker: it s not honest of you to say they re not partisan. it s apparent in what you say. it s apparent and what donald trump says that he admires vladimir putin. tucker: what does that have to do with any of this? sure, he says nice things about put in. i m not here to defend it. i don t like putin personally. what is i have to with the penetration of john podesta s server? do you think that trumpet was somehow involved in that question mike what is russia have to do with this story? we are less safe as a country because we have a president-elect to visit if you have something ticking out of congress and have experts look at that, hopefully once and for all, we can sign off on what happened and move on. tucker: you said the purposes of this was to restore faith and our electoral system and americans are nervous about what s on the level and you want to reassure them that it is. if that s true, why have you suggested that our voting machines were hacked, and you said it right here on december 7th, you said hacking included scanning in arizona, illinois, and florida . do you know that they had any effect on our voting? tucker, he should be the part that came out today. no tallies were changed. three election systems were hacked. that should concern us, but they intended to go into election systems. i don t want to relitigate their it is a gmac results in order for us to be a safer country and secure our democracy, we need to know what happened and assure people in a bipartisan way that it will not happen again. tucker: you can see that barack obama was president when this happened, right? it was president obama who tucker: soon it going sort or maybe they got that from the russian spy masters who are controlling them if they got that from russia, they should disavow them now. tucker: it fair enough. it congressman, good to see you. you too, thank you tucker. tucker: donald trump was given a 90 minute intelligence briefing today. they were saying the country had no effect on this countries outcome . we are joined by our expert on that, katherine harris. okay, so it s my five pages, is unclassified and i don t think i ve ever read a document that s more strongly worded and very definite about its findings. the findings are this was ordered by vladimir putin, the goal is to damage hillary clinton, it was to reduce the likelihood she would be elected and over time, they developed a preference for donald trump. they also say that their job is not to measure the impact on public opinion. that s something they can t measure. certainly the propaganda was a campaign on a level they had a not seen before. you really have to take a document at face value and you have to take a lot of faith in the underlying data. if you re looking at this for a review of evidence, there is no evidence here because of exposing sources and exposing methods. tucker: it isn t usual for a document like this to make claims this concrete about a leaders motives? this is a great question because i was really taken aback by his high confidence on so many other of the conclusions. high confidence is likening an a or an a- on on high school paper. it means there are high quality intelligence and multiple data points if they put together. i ve never really seen a this fake news operation had exposed 200 people to russian propaganda, a huge story that went everywhere. as it turned out, it was based on a list compiled by a secret group, a new group, that was accomplished only by putting huge sites, mainstream sites and various clinton critical sites on the left, labeling russian propaganda outlets. that story clapped after two weeks. there s a huge editor s note at the top of the story. the editor announced or nonstad it on twitter. twitter. when the story collapsed and had to discount their own source, he said nothing, the paper said nothing. the story went everywhere, the retraction was heard by a tiny fraction of the people. we see this over and over throughout the last year when it comes to russian reports. tucker: interesting. we ve also seen anybody who raises questions about it denounced as a tool of the kremlin. just be clear for our viewers, i these are really furious charges, we should see evidence of that. tucker: exactly. that s my perspective precisely. thanks a lot for joining us. great to be with you, talker. it s the oncoming outcome of the republican party is hoping to repeal obamacare as it soon as president trump is sworn in. that s what they told you, but it might not happen thanks in part to senator rand paul who is also an opponent of obamacare. he joins us and asked to expend what exactly is going on. a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. aleve direct therapy. no one is offended by obamacare more than myself. i ve seen it up close, i ve seen it firsthand, i ll do anything to get rid of it. however, i don t want to have to vote for a budget that never balances and a budget that adds $9.7 trillion in debt in order to get to it. what i told my colleagues is, why don t we introduce a good budget? when the balances and then repeal obamacare? the rules and congress are you can t repeal it until you pass a budget. but what is and be a bad budget? we are not getting any democrats to vote for the budget. this is in a compromise with democrats. were going to vote for a budget. this is a republican product, why should it not be a vision of conservative budget, a fiscal conservatism russian mark why is it a budget that adds so much debt? tucker: that s a good question. you also said it could eventually lead for a tax to insurance companies. you wrote that. i understand that reasoning too. republicans promised that if there ever to achieve power, both chambers and to the presidency, to repeal obamacare right away. why haven t they thought this through? [laughs] good point. we should vote for replacement on the same day as a repeal. we should expand health savings accounts so people can save to buy insurance. we should let them buy anything. we should let them pay for their insurance premiums and their health savings account, we should be able to pay for a diet plan, you should be able to pay for a an exercise plan, you scribble to pay for vitamins. you should be able to pay for a vast variety. tucker: why haven t they come up with an alternative? the speaker of the house said we are going to have her placement pen within a year yesterday. really? we ve been waiting for six years. do not have a replacement plan in order? why haven t they done that? i don t know. i m putting forth a plan. i m putting a replacement plan together and it will be next week. i will replace replacement plan. it will be expanding hsa s, going across state lines, buying any kind of insurance and insurance companies want to sell, and will also involve something very important with sludge be expanding corporations you should be allowed to associate. if we do those things, the cost of insurance comes down, and get rid of the pre-existing spewing republicans haven t told the entire congress for a while. you just got elected to her second term, you re hardly the most senior guy in the senate. why haven t they agreed on a replacement plan until now? here s the thing. there are 50 plate replacement bills out there. i met with congress when tom price who s been appointed to the cabinet, i m supportive of him, i m supportive of many of his ideas. many of the ideas which are in bill form are his. you have all these bills, put together a replacement bill and vote on the monday one, but if you don t, the secondly repeal it, we re going to be rude blamed for all the unraveling of obamacare. and mark my words, it s going to unravel and unravel even quicker and we are going to be blamed for the bankruptcy of the insurance companies that may come as a result. skin on my obvious question is, don t you think promises like this made by republican candidates seeking office that they knew they could never really make good on as part of the reason republicans voted for trump in the first place? we didn t believe any republicans who were already in office. we could repeal obamacare and we could vote for replacement the same day. next week i will reap release . i can guarantee it will be accepted, i m telling everybody in my caucus and i m trying to tell everybody, we need to have replacement the same day we repeal obamacare. tucker: good luck. senator rand paul, good to see you. thank you. thank you. tucker: up next, temperatures are deftly rising on campus. a meteorologist says she s quitting her job because you can t take the pc atmosphere anymore. she joins us next. nutrition made with only 9 ingredients, plus 25 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. and look where life can take you! boost®. be up for it.™ myrbetriq may cause serious allergic reactions. if you experience swelling of the face, lips, throat or tongue or difficulty breathing, stop taking myrbetriq and tell your doctor right away. myrbetriq may affect or be affected by other medications. before taking myrbetriq tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems. common side effects include increased blood pressure common cold symptoms, urinary tractinfection, constipation, diarrhea, dizziness and headache. it s time for you to make the calls, so call your doctor to see if myrbetriq may be right for you. visit myrbetriq.com to learn more. tucker: and climate scientists at georgia tech is quitting because she can t take it anymore. she doesn t deny the climate is changing, but she says the university has come so politicized on the topic, she can no longer handle what she calls the craziness of it all. thank you for coming on tonight. it s a pleasure. tucker: is a pleasure for me. you ve said that research money only goes to researchers pursuing only use lines of inquiry and they re all the same and that prevents good science from happening. my understanding correctly? not really, but what you re seeing is this dominant theme of human cause climate change which is where all of the research and focuses being directed and it s going to understanding. gun is not the key debate, not whether temperatures are changing, because they have, but why. it s been warming for several hundred years. the question is how much of the recent warming say for the last 50 years is caused by humans. my interpretation of the evidence is that we really can t tell and i don t see a clearer signal that is caused by humans predominantly. tucker: for your position, you said we really can t tell. you re sort of open-minded it sounds like. if you believe you are penalized for that view? i ve been vilified by some of my colleagues who are activists and don t like anybody challenging their big story. i walk around with knives sticking out of my back. in the university environment if alec is beating my head against the wall and not being effective tucker: people disagree and have strong ideologies. that s the opposite of what i understood science to be is that you are led by inquiry and evidence to conclusions. university should be places of research, freedom of investigation, honest and open debate, diverse perspectives et cetera. in certain fields that are politically relevant, you re definitely not seeing that. tucker: this is one that has relevance for all of us. the research you re doing, or your colleagues as activists are doing, will affect everyone on the planet. this takes really high, no? the stakes are really high. i think i could have more of an impact outside of the universit university. in the private sector, sort of free market, academic freedom. tucker: it let me ask you this, when you hear people that ask the question that you just asked, to what extent is climate change being driven by human activity? people who ask that are derided as climate deniers. what is your response to that? my response is that really don t know. humans are contributing something, we don t know how much. from the evidence that i ve seen, i don t think that it s the dominant cause. tucker: your not listing tv. because 90% of science is globalists really believe one thing. you must be in the 2%, right? ironically, the way the question is framed by the consensus is that yes, it s warming, yes, humans contribute to it. everyone agrees with that, i m in the 90%. it s when you get down to the details that there is genuine disagreements that is really glossed over in the media. tucker: we need to do them multiview show on this. i hope you ll come back for that. thank you for joining us. thank you. tucker: straightahead, will donald trump s affection for political rivals provide the chill and their relations? that is a head next. bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you get more life per roll. bounty, the quicker picker upper tucker: here s a something new. a local news report about amazon s spend happy voice assistant, alexa, has sparked a bigger shopping spree. alexa confused a 6-year-olds chatter for an actual order. one san diego news station said that their echo devices tried it to order dollhouses. apparently they really were listening to television. the new world has no choice but to obey alexa if she wants you to buy products on amazon. time now for the friend zone. we have one of our friends from fox here on the show. tonight we are joined by someone we literally could not like more, janice dean, cohost of fox and friends. fox and friends, who wrote that? tucker: we just upgraded you. i have a couple questions for you, i have to start with the weather. what is going on? that s what everybody is talking about. we have cold temperatures that has sunk as far south as the gulf coast. we have a raging snowstorm that is happening across the south. we re talking about minus 20 s, minus 30s, single digits, teens across the south. the stage is set paired we ve got cold air in place and a storm system coming out of the gulf, tucker, that is bringing snow and ice to areas that don t typically see wintry weather. people are freaked out, rightfully so, a couple of years in atlanta, georgia, we have people on the highways for days that couldn t move. they have taken precautions there. they know they have a big storm on the way. the west, on the way, also getting pounded by rain and snow in the next couple of days. really the most they ve seen in years it could put a dent in the drought. a good thing, but too much of a good thing could bring flash flooding. this is a big deal it s happening across the south as we speak. ice and snow and areas like louisiana, mississippi, the carolinas. in some cases, tucker, we could see more of the snow and the carolinas that we have seen in new york city all season. this is a big deal and people are taken precautions. the good thing is it s happening on a weekend. it s happening when people don t have to go to work, they have told go anywhere with their kids. tucker: at one of those years where anything can happen. we sent our until our reporters return with their forensic background report they did on you, i didn t know that you were a comedian professionally at one point. noel, noel, noel. i was never a comedian. they have these things in new york city. you have thetape? is it the comic strip here and new york city, i won first prize, tucker can you believe i it? tucker: you re such a modest person. how did you prepare for this? how did you go from being on tv to being a winner of a stand-up comedy competition? i have always loved comedians and what they do i just wanted to give it a shot. i just want to make people laugh. on fox & friends, loved to make the audience laugh as well. this is a big challenge. i will say it s one of the most rewarding things i have done, because i was so nervous about this and to stand up there and just be raw and just try to make you laugh, i will say, it really was the most challenging thing. what i did, was i took my experience. i talked what i do with the weather person. when i was pregnant, i got an email that said janice dean when you having that baby because you re blocking mississippi and i need to see my hometown! i had some fun with coworkers as well. i think you have a clip of that. tucker: here we go. i ve been doing this for a long time, been doing this for ten years. speaking of being on television, the hair and makeup and things, it takes a lot. it takes a village. you ve got to get the hair tease, the hair color, the highlights, the spray tan, the botox, the makeup, the jewelry, and that s just eric bolling. [laughter] tucker: i ve seen him and end out of makeup. it s a tossup between geraldo and eric bolling. please know i kid because i lov love. it was a challenging thing and it to make people laugh, i understand the rush performers get, comedians get. working with comedians, they ll say one night you have a great routine and the next night you do the same routine and you won t get any laughs. hats off to people who do that. i don t think i ll be doing it again, but i m glad i have the trophy in my office. tucker: i wish i d been there. janice dean, peeling back layers of the onion. it gets sweeter as you get closer to the core. by the way, congratulations to 9:00. i m so proud of you. tucker: i hope you re up late enough to be on. all right, i m next, we got an update on the fort lauderdale airport shooting. we value information on that, details coming up. stay tuned quit smoking. but when we brought our daughter home, that was it. now i have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. it s the best thing that ever happened to me. every great why needs a great how. dear freshpet, zooka had digestive problems and wouldn t eat. then i fed him freshpet. travelers. the airport when i m locked down around 2:00 p.m., after a second shooting which ended up not to be related. or was not an additional shooting. the fort lauderdale hollywood airport. disunited jet behind me, just pulled up, this is one of several large bodied aircraft that had landed here at the airport when suddenly, it was put on security lockdown. they could not get to a jetway. nobody was allowed to leave the airport property, nobody was allowed to gain access to the airport property, this was all around 2:00 in the afternoon, so presumably, there are a lot of people on that plane club and stuck out on the tarmac for the past six hours because they couldn t get to a jetway to debark the plane. here comes another one of these planes full of passengers. you know their miserable. at the people inside the terminals are now finally being allowed to leave the airport now that for the most part, the airport has been checked square inch after square inch for any further threat that did not materialize. hundreds and hundreds of people are now leaving terminals one, three, and four. if you have a car in the garage is, you re allowed to go get your car and drive off the property. a lot of the people are returning from cruises, the plane got canceled, they re not being allowed to leave the airport, they re sending people to the port of everglades or you can on cruise ships. they can at least get some food and figure out where they re going to stay for tonight and rebook their travel plans and return home. absolutely a miserable day, but not nearly as horrible as the families of these 13 shooting victims. back to you, tucker. tucker: thanks, bill for the update. coming up next, yet he has decided to build a big fat wall anyway. it s not next to the border, it s in d.c. there not sending their best. details ahead [vo] quickbooks introduces jeanette. and her new business: i do, to go. jeanette was excellent at marrying people. but had trouble getting paid. not a good time, jeanette. even worse. now i m uncomfortable. but here s the good news, jeanette got quickbooks. send that invoice, jeanette. looks like they viewed it. and, ta-da! 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at today s sessions hearing. the equivalent of being made to go to the back of the bus. major holes in tillerson s sanctuary. were we lobbying before or against? i m a germaphobe, believe me. when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i m chris hayes. there are just nine days until donald trump becomes president of the united states. today we were inundated with news, much of it disturbing, about what to expect when he takes office. in fact there was so much news today it is, frankly, impossible for us to fully cover what we saw and heard, which may well have been the point. we are going to aggressively cover the issues we have deemed most important and they are big ones. among them, the president-elect evoking nazi germany to characterize u.s. intelligence agencies, offering kind words to the russians who the intelligence community believe hacked the dnc and clinton campaign. trump s secretary of state pick exxonmobil ceo rex tillerson possibly lying under oath at his confirmation hearing about exxonmobil lobbying against russian sanctions and an impassioned and unprecedented plea from a sitting senator, cory booker, to reject trump s attorney general nominee senator jeff sessions over his record on civil rights. but we begin with the story we believe to be most important at this pivotal moment and what this day with as about. the nearly incomprehensible set of conflicts of interest that result from refusing to relinquish ownership of a multibillion dollar organizations that is engaged with businesses and countries around the world, the full scope of which we still don t know. that s because trump refuses to release his tax returns. well, i m not showing tax returns, as you know, they re under audit. reporter: every president since the 70s has had an irs. i ve never heard that. you know, the only ones who care about my tax returns are the prevented from doing so so there is no way of knowing whether they were genuine documents or just phony visual aids like the supposed trump steaks that trump showed off last march which turned out to have been purchased from a south florida meat company and still had the labels on them to prove it. to explain the steps he took, trump brought to the stage attorney sheri dillon whose lau firm won the 2016 law firm of the year. she said trump is not liquidating his assets because doing so could lead to unreasonable losses for trump and this is simply too high a burden. the approach we ve outlined today will avoid potential conflicts of interest or concerns regarding exploitation of the office of the presidency without imposing unnecessary and unreasonable losses on the president-elect and his family. that position prompted this response from the head of the office of government ethics independent trustee as oge has advised him to do. he did not deal with his emoluments clause problems, the unconstitutional flows of funds and other benefits from foreign governments and their agents. what he announced with his children is more like an ethics sieve, full of holes. so he gets f across the board. i should say that walter shaub gave a remarkable speech, we exerted some of it. he basically agreed with you, norm, this is not my area of expertise. mr. painter, what about the argument that was made explicitly by the president-elect s lawyer that forcing divestiture would essentially cost the president-elect too much money. that it would be too painful, too large, to unreasonable a financial sacrifice? well, in the bush administration as the chief ethics lawyer i worked with a lot of incoming cabinet officials who sold off assets and left money on the table, stock options and other money, and, yes, it cost them money to enter public service. i took a substantial pay cut to go work in the white house. that s what public service is all about. i am thrilled to have a president who has friends all over the world who will offer him $2 billion and so forth, that s great, but that s got to stop as of january 20. he s got to focus on being president and this is business is worth a lot to him but i m sure he could sell it off for a couple of million dollars which is plenty of money for him, but this government everyday spends more money than that business is probably worth and he is in charge of it as president of the united states. he s got to focus on his job and walter shaub s job at the office of government ethics is to advise government officials including the president on complying with a conflict of interest standard and walter is exactly right. there has been a political war against the office of government ethics this week conducted by super pacs and against walter in particular, trying to line him up for getting fired by the president or something like that and i have said this at the brookings institution this afternoon. if there s a saturday night massacre aatoge, we won t stand for that in the united states and we won t stand for a president who would tolerate that. this is an independent agency that implements ethics laws in the executive branch. walter shaub has a job to do and he is doing it and it s time for the president to focus on his job and to divest for those business enterprises instead of attacking the office of government ethics. i should note the saturday night massacre a reference to the attempted firing of key department of justice officials by richard nixon which essentially was the end of the end. well, they did fire them, they got down to robert bourque who would take care of the job for them. but that s not going to happen and we won t let that happen in this administration unless president trump wants to go the sa way nixon went. those are strong words and i want to talk about i ll let you you gentlemen referred to as a constitutional crisis, which you, ambassador, referred to. it bans emoluments for american officials. sheri dillon issued kind of fro from the bench her constitutional ruling, quite clear about what is and is not an an emolument. here s what she had to say. since president-elect trump some people want to define emoluments to cover routine business transactions like paying for hotel rooms. they prevent what the president-elect isn t aware of. these people are wrong. you re wrong ambassador is that correct? like many of her client s tweets and statements, it s tolly incorrect. the emoluments clause, it s a fancy 18th century word. all it s intended to say is that presidents of the united states cannot get cash and other benefits from foreign governments and you can understand why that would be a coern, how cane know if somebody s getting these $2 llion offers. right. let s say that came from a foreign government. we don t know if a foreign government was involved in that or not. how can we know they re doing what s in the best interest of the united states? the founders were very concerned about that. they put this in the constitution and donald trump is allowing all of that to continue. it s absolutely shocking. ambassador norm eisen and richard painter, gentlemen, you have been really, really helpful in understanding and navigating all this and i thank you for your time tonight. thank you, chris. still to come, filmmaker michael moore with his reaction to the slights, vendettas and unanswered questions from the president-elect s first press conference. as that press conference was going on, we got our first chance to hear trump s pick for secretary of state and his somewhat inconsistent views about russia. we ll dive into the rex tillerson hearing ahead. let me ask you this question is vladimir putin a war criminal? i would not use that term. well, let me describe the situation in aleppo and perhaps that will help you reach that conclusion. 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no, i didn t see anything that changed my mind. in fact, chris, i saw several things that deepened the concerns that we expressed about senator sessions, we ve been familiar with him since 1985 when lawyers at the naacp legal defense fund represented three civil rights activists, two of whom had been close friends of martin luther king who senator sessions prosecuted when he was u.s. attorney in alabama. they were acquitted but that prosecution had long-standing affects on that community in terms of intimidating black voters who were questioned by the fbi and who senator sessions allowed to be intimidated by members of his team. so we ve known him and his record for a long time. what i heard yesterday was in my view what is a very cynical effort to dismiss a record of over 40 years senator sessions has been a u.s. attorney, the attorney general of alabama for about two years and then the a united states senator and in that time we ve had an opportunity to see where he stands on a variety of civil rights issues. he was rejected, as you know, by the senate judiciary committee in 1986 when he sought to become a federal district judge because they found that the evidence of that prosecution and statements he was accused of making made him unsuited to be a federal district judge. yesterday he said he was wrongly characterized, you can find our report on our web site that starts looking not only from 1985 but up to this century and 2017, including during the campaign of president-elect trump where senator sessions was a close ally and was the first sitting senator to endorse president-elect trump. i want to talk about one specific area that i ve been following myself for a book i wrote and something you and i have spoken about, which is policing. particularly because this justice department under president obama i would say, particularly in the second term, has played a muscular role in the civil rights division in patterns and practices investigations of cities from chicago to cleveland to baltimore to ferguson and consent decrees that are federal efforts to reform policing externally for localities that have proven to be unable to do that for themselves. here s what senator sessions had to say about those consent decrees today. take a listen. it s a difficult thing for a city to be sued by the department of justice and to be told that your police department is systematically failing to serve the people of the state or the city. so that s an august responsibility of the dow jonat general and the department of justice so they often feel forced to agree to a consent decree just to remove that stigma. that was obviously yesterday. what do you make of that answer? well, i think you have to combine it with even more testimony yesterday, the fact he was endorsed by the fraternal order of police, there was a phalanx of law enforcement there to support him yesterday and the head of the fraternal order of police testified on his behalf today and they all essentially said the same thing, and what they said and what i heard out of the mouth of senator sessions is that he intends to be a champion of local police, that he does not believe the federal government through the department of justice should be intruding in local policing matters. he said specifically he thinks that too many people, including the department, are paintin entire place departments as being engaged in unconstitutional conduct when in fact it s just a few officers, a few bad apples, something we ve heard before. we he s a proponent of that view. he has been skeptical about consent decrees for many years, not just recently. but what we heard from him at this hearing makes me quite certain that senator sessions, if he is confirmed, will be taking a very different tack on policing reform. i do not expect pattern and practice investigations, i do not expect consent decree. i hope he will continue work of the cops office that works on retraining police departments but that remains to be seen. i was not encouraged by what i heard from his lips yesterday and what i heard today. as you know, local practices like in ferguson, it was the department of justice that discovered this kind of pyramid scheme that ferguson was running, it was department of justice that discovered unconstitutional policing in baltimore and we need to department of justice to be engaged in that activity. those patterns and practices report which is you can find on line are remarkable reading produced by that same department that the senator would be running, sherrilyn ifill, thank you for your time. thank you, chris. up next, nine days away from his inauguration, president-elect donald trump escalated his feud with his own intelligence agencies by and i m not making this up comparing them to nazis. that story after the short break. just thinking about it? 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i did read the interagency report released on january 6. that report clearly is troubling and indicates that all of the actions you just described were undertaken. senator bob menendez, a democrat, asked whether tillerson s responses reflect the views of the president-elect himself. i assume to some degree you ve had some discussion about what it is that that world view is going to be in order to understand whether you re willing to execute that on behalf of the person you re going to work for. in a broad construct in terms of the principles that are going to guide that, yes, sir. i would have thought russia would be at the top of that considering the actions taking place, is that did that not happen? that has not occurred yet, senator. that s pretty amazing. senator menendez asked tillerson about his company s history of opposing economic sanctions including those leveed against russia for its invasion of crimea. this was the response. first, i have never lobbied against sanctions personally. the company you directed did. to my knowledge exxon never lobbied against sanctions, not to my knowledge. new jersey senator bob menendez. shortly after that your colleague senator corker said mr. tillerson i believe you called me to lobby against sanctions. later in the committee meeting you then pulled out the lobbying disclosure forms that showed exxon had filed disclosure forms to lobby on sanctions. do you believe that mr. tillerson was being deceptive with you today? well, he was either avoiding the truth or his management style has got to be ofoncern as he seeks to head one of the biggest departments of the federal government, the state department, not only with its operations here but across the world. it s impossible to almost believe that you could spend and direct millions of dollars in bobbying activities as those reports that i submitted for the record show and not know that was happening and not know they were lobbying against sanctions. the second thing he said to me when i presented the evidence, he said to me well, it doesn t say whether we were lobbying for or against. in what world would he have lobbied for sanctions that would have hurt the bottom line of his company? so it clearly was at least not transparent and worrisome because if he really didn t know, how do you operate a large institution like the state department and what s your management style? he also exxonmobil responded saying let s be clear, we engaged with lawmakers to discuss sanction impacts, not whether or not sanctions should be opposed although that strikes me as a distinction without a difference if you come to a member s office and say this is going to hurt our bottom line you don t have to say that s why you should oppose it. absolutely. mr. tillerson said it was to seek information and guidance. well, you don t have to have a lobby disclosure form in order to seek information or guidance. you have a lobby disclosure form because you are taking a specific position for or against a specific piece of legislation or regulatory action. that thing about getting information is not tenable because you don t need to do that to file a disclosure form. they were clearly lobbying against sanctions on iran, russia and other iterations of those sanction regimes. so was this fundamentally deceptive? i asked at the beginning but he says he never personally lobbied then you have your colleague saying you called me. do you feel the answers he gave today were forthcoming and truthful? no, i have serious questions as to what he answered. on the whole sanctions regime, which is part of our limited arsenal of peaceful diplomacy tools so you don t have to go to war over disputes, he had it all over the place. he has a history of lobbying against it to exxonmobil then he says they can be powerful a powerful tool. and when i asked him today, without specifying with sanctions, do you not believe on the face of everything russia has done including trying to affect our own national presidential elections that additional sanctions should be called for and he wouldn t commit to that. so i have a real concern as to where he stands as it relates to that and other issues. all right, senator bob menendez, thank you for your time, appreciate it. thank you. still to come, today s press conference served as a stark reminder of the temperament of the incoming president. i ll talk about it with michael moore ahead. plus, a truly, truly bizarre thing 1, thing 2 that you have to see after this break. 90% of the world s largest supercomputers run on intel? 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mr. president-elect, since you are attacking not you. not you. reporter: can you give us a chance? your organization is terrible. i m not going to give you a question, i i can you state categorically you are fake news. that man not the man sitting down, the man standing up, is about to become the most powerful person in the world. i will ask filmmaker michael moore what that means for our democracy next. don t let the food you eat during the day haunt you at night. nexium 24hr. shuts down your stomach s active acid pumps. to stop the burn of frequent heartburn. all day and night. have we seen them before? banish the burn with nexium 24hr. we re not professional liathletes. .but that doesn t mean we re giving up. i m in this for me. for me. along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. lowering a1c by up to 1.2 points. do not take if allergic to farxiga. if you experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction such as rash,. .swelling, difficulty breathing or swallowing,. .stop taking and seek medical help right away. do not take farxiga if you have severe kidney problems,. .are on dialysis, or have bladder cancer. tell you doctor right away if you have blood or red color in your urine,. .or pain while you urinate. farxiga can cause serious side effects including dehydration, genital yeast infections in women and men, serious urinary tract infections, low blood sugar, and kidney problems. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away. .if you have signs of ketoacidosis. .which is serious and may lead to death. i m in this for my family. i m in this for me. ask your doctor about farxiga. .and learn how you can get it for free. so we know how to cover almost alanything.ything, even mer-mutts. (1940s aqua music) (burke) and we covered it, february third, twenty-sixteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we ve seen a thing or two. we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum for patients like lynn, advanced genomic testing may lead to other treatment options that can work. learn how genomic testing is changing the way we fight cancer at cancercenter.com/genomics well, first of all, i ll speak as a director, then, as a film director. it was a masterful performance, he owned the room, he owned the day, this should be very distressing to everyone. you think it was politically effective today? absolutely. especially for he and his side. as showmanship? as such i did this in my hold. take those same words you just showed you are fake news. put those words in nixon s mouth, it would have sounded like the paranoid that nixon was. put those words in george w. bush s mouth, you know, it would have sounded defensive like a little boy. this guy pulls that off and he pulls it off over and over and over again and confuses the situation with so much you don t know we don t have enough time here to deal with everything that was said and done but speaking as a director, once again, the props, the trump steaks were replaced by file folders that by the way, i don t know if this has been reported, they wouldn t let the reporters we did. one of our own reporters tried to look. yeah, because of course somebody went to staples and hour earlier. i don t know but that certainly is plausible. creatined this problem that looks like a law student s dorm room, you know? it really it s like obviously we ve thought this through and obviously we ve addressed the conflict of interest, just look at how many sheets of paper there are. just look at all this paper in an era where none of this is really on paper. so this is where now after this what happened today the threat against cnn and nbc has suffered the same sort of threat before. he attacked our reporter katy tur on multiples on occasions. absolutely. so now it s critical that the media do its job and do not be afraid, do not back down, do not try to because buzzfeed screwed up in some way because of the michael cohen thing, don t now not do your job because this clearly was something that wasn t vetted. so here s my you re referring to that dossier which circulated, published by buzzfeed that contained a bunch of unverified and possibly unverifiable, frankly, outlandish and lurid accusations. you could tell from the first moment that in a smart tactical sense they were going to attack the weakest point so that was distinct from the cnn report, right? but he conflate it had two very wisely, i thought, to attack them both and correct. and the main story, really, if you re a serious journalist, isn t the salacious prostitute stuff. it s the second point which is was there collusion between the trump campaign and any russians during the campaign? that s worthy of the investigation that apparently the fbi and others are doing right now. we should note jim acosta that was the question he was asking, can you state categorically it was dodged. acosta then said afterwards someone from abc asked that and the president-elect said no so i want to enter that in the record. here s my question to you. i have watched this play out in the transition period and what i ve noticed is this. donald trump ultimately became president-elect i think because he was able to profit off a forced choice between himself and hillary clinton and hick because of 30 years in the public eye because of different factors, he was able to say you may not like me but it s me or her. it strikes me he has replaced hillary clinton with the media. he is now running against the media. the scary part of that analogy is you have hillary who won but because of the democrats and who they are and the way they are she lost. well, she didn t win in the sense that she did not win the 270 electoral votes necessary to become president. well, let me put it a different way. if donald trump had won by three million popular votes things would have played out differently. what would be going on right now? i agree. in fact, he laid the ground work for it. correct. so play that out. so when you say the press has to be uncowed and i agree with you, my own personal perspective on this, they have to focus as much as possible which is very difficult to do, very difficult to do. yes, right because you re dealing with somebody with certain issues, we ll call it that just to who likes to pick a million fights. and says a million crazy things. he will in one moment say he believes russia did hack into the dnc and literally less than a minute later say i don t know. maybe not, maybe it was some other country. fortunately the 400 pound guy sitting on the bed has been left out of the discussion but it could be other countries. it could be other countries. so this is crazy time but it s so important. we re laughing about this but the media. they said this story has been floating around, did you hear it? i had heard word of it. i didn t read the dossier. but what i had read was david corn s piece based off this dossier. in terms of the first order of questions, i think you don t publish that dossier, that s my own personal feeling because you have to verify stuff that you publish. that s my feeling. no, that s correct. thank you. and as someone who i myself have had buzzfeed print things about me that aren t true so i now you re sounding trumpish. well, no, it s just the truth that this is where this is going to be the undoing of the press if they don t do what you just said, if that kind of serious journalism doesn t happen and and we should point out that nbc universal is an investor in buzzfeed. any time that s mentioned it should be said. yes. they are. so we should say here, though, that that the you re getting at the pay dirt here, what is the term he used? they appropriate this term, fake news. fake news is this term he s one of the founders of in the the obama era. he created the fake news of the barack obama is not a citizen. and he said that there was intelligence. that s right. he was called by a reputable source that there was intelligence. he himself was going to he was hiring investigators to support his fake news. he is the godfather of this deck ka decade s fake news. for him to say fake news well, this is a great point. as a person who launched his political career off of unverifiable and ultimately incorrect conspiratorial and frankly racist theories about the president s crypto kenyan birth and forged documents and all this stuff. and the fact that the way he deals with the sex thing is his defense is i m a germaphobe. he just admits it publicly on tv i m a germaphobe. like to him that takes care of any sex like sex is all dirty and germy. whatever. well that s what he used. this could have never happened. i won t get into the weeds. this couldn t have happened because i m a germaphobe and i know where they put the cameras in the hotel rooms, i have hotels. that was also fascinating. but the term fake news and what i found potent about that is describe this specific thing that happened during the election, you see it all the time, in your facebook feed, denzel washington endorses donald trump. that s jus not a true thing and the people that wrote that know it s not true. it s not even that important, frankly, but not true. he even tweeted i put out a movie against him called trumpland just before the election and he tweets thank you, michael moore, for putting out trumpland. and it s like i thought at the time he sees his name in the title. it s to a narcissist it s always a great thing to see you name. to be mentioned, yeah. but it s just but we re through the looking glass. he has appropriated this term to say it s a judo move where it s it s fake news. this was genius today. he pulled it off now we ll see if the press decides to back down or come back at him. and stay on the conflict story. and stay on the fact that he is a founder of fake news and that s and when he says things like over the weekend i was offered $2 billion. have you ever heard a president or president-elect ever say yeah, i just got offered $2 billion. and i have to say, i was happy for that moment because it was news, we didn t know that and it concretized precisely the conflict problem we have been trying to illustrate on this show. michael moore, thank you. and thank you and let me just
house. this is picture for that meeting. and for the second straight day the dow bounced on wall street. truly an unprecedented thick and it runs completely counter to many of the prognostications out there before. yet another record today after donald trump s win. michelle kosinski is outfront at the white house. michelle, the moment today of this meeting so many people thought 24e8d never see barack obama and donald trump meet, never mind as president and president elect at the white house. maybe even not the two people at the meeting. and tonight outside the white house more protests but inside today it was all about reassurance and everybody on their best behavior. what was so fascinating about this, on the one hand you have this incredibly organized transition process with handshakes and good wishes on all sides. but then on the other, you have this intense bitterness from the campaign trail. and today the white house didn t really hold back in saying that i have great respect. the meeting lasted for almost an hour and a half. and it could have as far as i m concerned it could have gone on for a lot longer. we really we discussed a lot of different situations. some wonderful and some difficulties. i very much look forward to dealing with the president in the future, including counsel. when asked the white house press secretary said all those warnings from president obama on the campaign trail about trump, that he s dangerous, unqualified, still hold. does the president now have any reason to believe that donald trump is fit to be president of the united states? again, i m not gonna if two men did not relitigate their differences in the oval office. trump s next stop, capitol hill. meetings with leadership. the tone here equally welcoming, putting deep differences aside, for now. more affordable and better. reporter: an impending rolling back of as many of president obama s policies as possible. but the white house couldn t talk about that today, saying essentially what will be will be. america has chosen. my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures our president elect is successfulal. ending it all with a joking reminder with one leader to the next, not to take question interests the press. thank you guys. we re not going to be taking any questions. that s good rule. don t answer any questions when their [indiscernible] very good man. well the not only how these two feel about each other but also the fact that donald trump has vowed many times to roll back president obama s policies. is a key job as chief of staff. the other person is a reince priebus. he s also been very integral in trump s world. running the ground population that got donald trump elected. he s been also very personally involved. i m told their bond isn t necessarily as close but certainly much closer than people think. and i m also told by people around washington erin that he would be a consensus choice. knows washington and the republicans on the hill. helping get many of them elected. so that is a choice. and probably the first and most important choings because it is the most personal. dana, thank you very much. and outfront tonight. reince priebus. chairman of the republican national committee. thank you for being with us tonight. i know you are doing this on very little sleep if any. we re told you have spoken to trump about a position in his administration. how did that conversation go? no that is not the case. we don t i m not involved in that. nobody is talking about those things. and so our focus right now is just making sure we re wrapping up the committee work and then, you know, making sure that the transition goes smoothly and so that he can be well equipped come january. and he will be. donald trump does give you a lot of credit for his win. at that moment when the world was watching him give his victory speech. he talked about you. here is what he said. i ll tell you, reince is really a star. and he s the hardest working guy we understand and i know you are saying you haven t talked about it with him. but you are on the list. steve bannon is on the list for trump s chief of staff. if offered would you take that job? do you even want it? i don t i don t to even talk achbbout it. the truth is i m in my job right now, erin. i m chairman of the rnc. it is an important role we play at the national party. and it was a great victory. but those great victories only happen with a great candidate. i m proud of her mechanics and data and i think it is unprecedented. i think it is unbelievable what this committee did. but none of those unbelievable things work if you have a bad candidate. so it always starts with a great candidate. and the other thing it starts with is you have to have a candidate that is flowing with the river. in other words the momentum, the mood of the electorate has to flow with the candidate. all of those things lined up, which is why, you know, i think the media narrative was just so far off on what americans were thinking about the choices they had in front of them. president obama and president elect trump were supposed to meet today for ten minutes. as, you know, that was the schedule. were you surprised after all the and let s just be honest here, frankly horrible things they said about each other that that meeting lasted han hour and a half? no i m not surprised and i ll tell you why. i ve seen president trump in meetings one on one or meetings and things had to be patched up. and people have to get to know each other. he didn t get to where he is. and now he s president elect in the united states. in his business deals, i guarantee you there are all kind of problems he s dealt with. blowout arguments permits or buildings or whatever. he ll walk into a meeting. and people will say this is a gracious personable guy. he s a hard guy not to like, especially in meetings like that. so i m not surprised. do you know what they talked about? have you had a chance to talk to donald trump about it? i talked to him briefly today when he swung through the rnc. but we obviously i wasn t downloading on details with him. but i m sure it was very positive and the reports are indicative of that. you know, bernie sanders today talked about donald trump on cnn. i wanted to play for you part of what e said. the election is over. donald trump won. i intend to work with president trump. i will vigorously oppose him if he appeals to racism or sexism or some of the other discriminatory measures that he brought up during his campaign. reince you have seen the protests. they are out there again on the streets tonight protests against trump s presidency. does he need to. does he feel he should reach out to these people explicitly and assuage their fears? well erin yesterday morning keep in mind donald trump spoke to the american people, just yesterday morning. and when he was getting ready for that speech, it was nothing about bragging about the election, nothing about continuing the rhetoric, the political rhetoric that was that was indicative of a political campaign. it was all about coming together, leading all americans no matter battleground, race, ethnicity, gender, whatever the case is. and it was donald trump that led. and it was him that decided this is the direction to go. let s bring people together. let s cool the water. so this is how it is going to be from now. that is what he did. it wasn t a speech nartd wloer said read this speech. no he sat down and made sure it was the right speech at the right time. and just yesterday morning, his sitting down with 90 minutes with the president. is another indicator. people should look at. here is a person who just won the presidency. and he s sitting down having a 90 minute conversation should have been 10 with the president and she s working hard and showing the country he s working hard to move the country forward. but i would say the agenda americans were in favor of was an agenda that the republican party, meaning our candidate, including president elect trump, house and senate candidates put on the table. the other part of this is that we have an obligation then to pursue the promises that we made in t in the campaign that people voted for. they voted and said yes we with want those things to be done in washington. so those things will be done. we don t have a mandate to water down our promises. we have a mandate to perform the things that we promised. so a wall banni, banning mus immigration from that s not the promise that is not the position he laid out. and this has now been since june that he gave that speech. i believe to either the american leagues or vfw. in june he said his position is if the country is harbor b terrorists in the risk of the security of the united states that he would take member to suspend those immigration visas until a better vetting system is in place. that is consistent with many bills in the house and senate. and it is what donald trump s position is. so if the media wants to go back now. not you in particular erin, but if if media wants to go back now and stir the pot and now claim he want this is muslim ban that he s made it clear through a three disabilities through june that this was not his position. it would do us all a favor if the media would get together and quit stirring the pot he did say it originally. and i donald trump and then it is going to be certain countries. and then countries that harbor terrorists. those what are those countries? is that nothing to do with being muslim at all? he s got to iron out very completely what he meant because he made it very clearly about religion. he said repeatedly that there is no religious test. and for you all to be coming back and relitigating something that was that is now five months old is what the problem is in our country. the problem is we ve got to fill 24 hours a day, 7 days a week of cable stations that create these issues that don t exist, and then turn people against each other. if the media is so interested in america coming together, then they ought to do their job and quit stirring the pot where it should belong. do you think reince that he also carry answer obligation? you have muslims in this country who are worried. they are afraid. they are afraid of what will happen and they are afraid of what erin i ve talked to ceos in other countries who are worried about this. isn t this incumbent on donald trump to come out and be very clear and the leader e rrin, listen. i think you are very good but i m very surprised that this is the conversation we re having. yesterday morning, yesterday morning, he just gave a speech about americans coming together. and you are asking me now on thursday whether he needs to do another i mean, i m not sure what you are asking for. he s the president for all americans. he s made that very clear. we re making it clear. and to go back to, you know, old issues when they have been asked over and over again and have been answer by president elect trump, people need to understand that he understands. i promise you. i know where his head and heart is at. and he said it. so just trust his own words. he ll be a president for all american, republican, democrat, independent, any religion, any faith. he s your president and he s going do the he s going to do a fantastic job and he understands the gravity and the seriousness of the position. reince priebus. thank you very much. appreciate your time tonight. thank you erin. and new tonight donald and melania trump are back in new york tonight. melania trump spent the morning with the first lady, michelle obama and this is a picture of the first meeting, the two having tea, after one of the ugliest presidential campaigns in recent history. suzanne malveaux is out fror ou at the white house. reporter: one thing to talk about your kids. safe territory. a good ice breaker. that is exactly what michelle obama as well as melania trump did. you might recall, sasha and malia were quite young. and it is melania trump whose concerned. very protective of her 10-year-old son baron. so that is something they share. this is very different than what their husbands experienced today. no cameras not. press. we have one photo from the white house press office. all smiles. we are told that it started off with a tour of the residence. and went to the truman balcony. that as you know erin the place where the first lady and barack obama, the president, spending a lot of quality time there. so it is a special place for them. they took them there. and also melania was shown taken to the state floor in the white house to meet with the curator of the white house. that is bill almond. and he really is a human encyclopedia for all things inside of the building. and so she got a tour and she also got a lot of ideas about the white house looks like. the public space as well as the private space. and all of this as you know really meant to give them an opportunity, a chance to break the ice here in light of a very bitter campaign. this was with michelle obama saying quite publicly, quite forcefully making her case that she did not believe melania s husband was fit for the office and also followed the rnc convention where we saw melania introduce her husband but also seemingly take a portion from her speech very similar to michelle obama s in 2008. so there is a lot of fodder there for both of they want. but the white house says this is just the first of many meetings, erin. all right. thank you very much suzanne. a meeting would have been great to be a fly on the wall in both meetings. joining us now our panel. we ll see who ends up being the chief of staff. let s start with what you just saw. the michelle obama and melania trump meeting. symbolic moment but obviously very cordial. both of these meetings between donald trump and the president and melania trump and michelle obama. this is good for the american people to see. because it does represent i turning the page. going away from this nasty campaign where everyone said mean things about each other. now we re moving forward. it is the hallmark of the united states t peaceful transition of power. and it is heartening no see them talking to each other like civil humans. and let s because if anybody wouldn t be able to talk to each other likes civil human, it might be these two people given what they have said in the past. and yet they were so gracious to each other today. here are some of the things they had to say about each other. my priority is my son barron our son barron. i m a full time mother to our son barron. at the end of the day my most important title is still mom in chief. actually that wasn t the sound bite i was looking for. but phillip, you know they do have obviously having in common. michelle and melania trump. but let me play what i wanted to play which is president obama and president elect donald trump saying such nice things about each other today. i have been very encouraged by the, i think, interest in president elect trump s wanting to work with my team. mr. president, it was a great honor being with you. and i look forward to being with you many, many more times in the future. very good man. thank you guys. heartening things to hear. heartening image and hopefully healing for americans who are so divided right now. amazing picture because donald trump sitting in front of a bust of martin luther king j.r. it is a peaceful transition of power. i do think it seemed like he was a little nervous and understandably so. the weight of this job is going to be tremendous. and i think in that 90 minute time period donald trump got an understanding of just how important this road is going to be. i want to ask on the issue that came up in reince priebus and my conversation about the in this case it was about how donald trump would treat muslims. but there are other groups in this country who are also concerned. does donald trump need to speak to these people? some of whom are protesting now. and say if his policies have changed, how and why? does he need to talk to them david? yes i think he does. i don t think he needs do it immediately. and you have to say both he and president obama have given an excellent tone for the transition. gives us many you have more assurance about how the transition itself will be conducted. there are going to be issues that come up in the next few days. if trump names steve bannon as his chief of staff you are going to hear a lot of flurry about that one. but beyond that, i think that over time he does need to reach out. he ll have a couple of speeches coming up i m sure public remarks where he can say some of those things. but ify if he were more proactive and call people in and talk to them. that is the kind of smart thing. you sometimes needs to do things that are a little daring in order to get attention and people say yeah okay i get it. should he do that jeffrey? call? have a meeting with whatever group it may be. muslim americans. muslim leaders in this country. zrump a good leader. he s a good executive. the donald trump you saw there is the donald trump that i know and so many of his friends and the people who work for him now. skpoi totally expect him to be doing this. that said i want to say something about the protests here. i have the gray hair for a reason. and it is because at my age i have seen i ve grown up. and in my lifetime i have seen. and i m sure some of these are the same people in the streets over vietnam. there were a million people in the streets protesting ronald reagan s nuclear policy. they are demanding nuclear free. carrying paper ma shay heads and saying it is not a movie ron. they do the this all the time. they are going to do this to donald trump. they did it to poor hubert humphrey in chicago. some of these people are not going to change because it is their profession. this is not vanity. that is reaction to real concerns. we may not remember exactly everything donald trump said during the course of the campaign but we ll remember how we felt. whether it is the muslim community, whether it is african americans being concerned about the reintroduction of stop and frisk. whether it is the immigrant community broadly. i think there is real anger and concern. look, the tone on tuesday night and told have been great. so the question then becomes is he going to be the person that is welcoming to all these communities and let people know that he is going to be the president for everyone? i was in the protests last nights. i was watching your twitter feed. it was young people. promptly young women who are concerned about donald trump not because they are concerned about donald trump s policies. they are concerned about donald trump as donald trump. and donald trump cannot sit down with a woman and make that go away. he needs to demonstrate other the next four years he s doing significant outreach and not doing the things people are worried about with women. not doing the things people are worried with the african american community and tot doing the things people worried about with the african american community. hillary clinton seen for the first time since her concession speech. my guest, hillary clinton support wloer randomly spotted her in the woods alone on a hike today. guess who took the pitcher. and the gop waging war on president obama s signature achievement. just rhetoric? or is obamacare a goner? when it comes to heartburn. trust the brand doctors trust. nexium 24hr is the #1 choice of doctors and pharmacists for their own frequent heartburn. for all day and all night protection. banish the burn. with nexium 24hr. when you find something worth waiting for, we ll help you invest to protect it for the future. financial guidance while you re mastering life. from chase, so you can. what? is he gone?? finally, i thought he d never leave. tv character: why are you texting my man at 2 a.m.? no. if you want someone to leave you alone, you pretend like you re sleeping. it s what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it s what you do. tv character: taking selfies in the kitchen does not make you a model. people saw an incredibly painful moment for her. how did she seem to you? honestly i think she seemed as well as anybody could be expected after, you know, such a crazy, crazy experience. i can t speak to how she was feeling on the inside. but she couldn t have seemed any nicer or kinder and gracious to me. you know, i think it was a very dark day for a lot of people yesterday. so this was a very hopeful encouraging moment for me. and that is really why i posted the picture at all. and bill clinton i know was there margo. he s not in the picture. he took the picture actually. all right. thank you so much. i appreciate you taking the time margo. and there are many who were very eager to see this picture. and thank you for sharing it. thank you. i hope it makes people feel hopeful and comforted. that is really why i posted it. thank you. thank you so much. we re learning more tonight about what the clinton campaign thinks went so wrong versus what they expected. obviously she was out in the woods with bill taking a walk today. and she posed for that pitcher. life goes on. it has to. and the fact they are hiking in the woods. but i think, you know, to that woman s point, seeing a lot of hillary clinton supporters in my facebook feed and on twitter, i think a lot of women especially just wanted to give her a hug. so hearing that, that this women did that, i think she spoke for a lot of folks out there who are upset. and there are. there are tens of millions of them when you look at the vote here. that is how this country s split. and better the donald trump loss. and the other way around as well. and the new york times is reporting that hillary clinton privately is admitting she stepped in when he did something that . she said deplorables. let me just play exactly what she said. to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of trump s supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. right? the racists, sexists, homophobic, zxenophobic, islamophobic, you name it. and unfortunately there are people like that. is that something a lot of people heard. pollsters didn t pick it up and that over the summer could have started to turn that rust belt away from her. i don t know if that is the issue. i do think she believes it was a m misbecause she said so right afterwards. i don t think that in and itself was the issue. i do believe that the way in which she characterized some of donald trump s comments, i think that those are things over the course of time we ve seen and i ve rashed about it. and others have remarked about it. but i think she was particularly contrite o about that and admitted it off the bat. i think the e-mails themselves and the stories about the e-mails that have been fed into the narrative was difficult to over come be. do you think that this actually influenced people. i think it did. and i want to in a partial sense defend hillary clinton here. i think she really believes that but she is not alone right and the things she added. i went back a looked at the speech she had at wesley when she graduated and it has similarities. when i was a wanna beliberal in college. and i began to pick up this the contempt which i believe american liberalism has come to exemplify. and that little statement from her is a snapshot. i totally convinced she really believes it. and more to the point t people that were in the room laughing all agree. ed think you take it a lit too far. they say that liberals have a contempt with the working class which so many of us and to be able to say that she herself has that kind of contempt i think is stretching that comment moral of the story is talk about the candidate. 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replace obamacare. a difficult task over such a polarizing issue. obama making an appeal to voters while campaigning for hillary clinton. 20 million americans have health insurance that didn t visit before. but make no mistake, all that progress goes down the drain if we don t win tomorrow. democrats in congress plan to fight tooth and nail to save the sweeping law. if we re going to repeal and replace we need to replace with something that doesn t take healthcare away or insurance away from 20 million people. but goppers say voters expect them to do away with healthcare. let s say every single republican thought obamacare was a mistake. without exception. that s still our view. and you can expect us with a new president who has the same view to address that issue. reporter: passing a replacement bill could take up to two years erin. the entire during of congress. that is if they get democratic support. and in the meantime as the obama administration leaves office they are redoubling efforts to get people to sign up through the healthcare.gov website. a hundred thousand people signed up, the day after the election. the best day yet in open enrollment. so shows how difficult to be to simply gut the law. a fascinating one to watch. but i think it can go in a category of the promise that trump will keep not. matter up. i outfront next, isis threatening to bring disaster to america. what is president elect trump going to do about it? plus the other side of the melania trump. look at this donald trump driving. barron in the front seat. and the melania filming in the back. introducing the new turbocharged volkswagen alltrack with 4motion all-wheel drive. soon to be. everywhere. and it s empowering anyone to stop a job if something doesn t seem right. at bp, safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. at bp, safety is never being satisfied. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what s up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. break news. we re watching anti-trump protests again across the country. as anti-trump protesters. meeting with his transition team tomorrow and the top priority is the 800 jobs that require security clearance. outfront tonight a man who has been working since long before election day on trump s national security team. former chairman of the house select on intelligence and the more. it s been about 41 hours since the seismic event that so few expected. donald trump is the next president of the united states. you have been working with the trump team for a long time before election day but take me inside the room for these 41 hours. what has this been like for you. well can t take it too far into the room erin. but what i can tell you is this. this is very professionally run. i saw earlier reports that oh no they don t have a transition team. weren t engaged in it. this was very separate from the campaign. if trump was up 50 or down 7, it never mattered. the election came. i think there were some surprises for the folks on the transition team thinking it was a day that we were going to hand in our gear. instead it turned ourt. here is the good news. all of that preparation had already happened up to election day. so the surprise in the election didn t change that. president elect trump is going to get a full and robust package. everything from national security to economics, to all of it. including prevetting of individuals they believed could be could phil some on these important jobs so he could get up and running and make sure that the country has been taken care of. and i ll tell you the obama administration has been very professional and took the model from george w. bush and said we want to duplicate it and they have lived occupy that. a very commendable transition insuring that the handoff of the baton is good for america at the end of the day. so that part has been really refreshing and gives you faith i think in the country. an area i think you know too well. it s al qaeda terrorists, have been celebrating says it will bring disasters to the united states on the social media. what is your rookieaction to th fill in a candidate who would have won. either one they were going to do this. i would discard it pretty much immediately. there will be a change. i m sure there is going to be a strange in strategy for sure and for certain when it comes to targeting isis. but that effort is really try to get into america s head and our allies in europe. so i think you got to shrug that off like you would anything else. and remember they have a goal. they are trying to disrupt and cause a little disruption. we ought not to let them do it. and quickly, barbara starr is saying if trump gave the illegal order of water boarding to some generals. so purely speculation and so early. he s going to get in. he s going to get lots of briefs. he s going to understand what his options are. . i have no indication not even a outside of the bounds of his - legal boundaries. i dismiss it. this is a president who s come in and said i want professionals in all of these places. they have done that. there is professional transition. he s going to get professional advice. i think he s going to take it. and very quickly before we go, fbi special agent for five years. you are respected on both sides of the aisle. a lot of people are saying you could be up for a top job. say cia director. would you take it if offered congressman? i can t even. wouldn t even hesitate to bother to speculate. the whole focus is on the transition and honestly nothing more. thank you. appreciate your time. good to talk to you tonight. thank you. and next melania trump embracing her new title. crohn s disease.te to se i didn t think there was anything else to talk about. but then i realized there was. so, i finally broke the silence with my doctor about what i was experiencing. he said humira is for people like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn s disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. if you re still just managing your symptoms, talk with your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. i use what s already inside me to reach my goals. so i liked when my doctor told me that i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what s within me with once-weekly trulicity. trulicity is not insulin. it helps activate my body to do what it s supposed to do release its own insulin. trulicity responds when my blood sugar rises. i take it once a week, and it works 24/7. it comes in an easy-to-use pen and i may even lose a little weight. trulicity is a once-weekly injectable prescription medicine to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. it should be used along with diet and exercise. trulicity is not recommended as the first medicine to treat diabetes and should not be used by people with severe stomach or intestinal problems or people with type i diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. trulicity is not insulin and has not been studied with long-acting insulin. do not take trulicity if you or anyone in your family has had medullary thyroid cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2 or if you are allergic to trulicity or its ingredients. stop using trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of an allergic reaction, such as itching, rash, or difficulty breathing; if you have signs of pancreatitis such as severe stomach pain that will not go away and may move to your back, with or without vomiting or if you have symptoms of thyroid cancer, which may include a lump or swelling in your neck, hoarseness, trouble swallowing, or shortness of breath. medicines like trulicity may cause stomach problems, which could be severe. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and any medicines you take. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase your risk for low blood sugar. common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite, and indigestion. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney failure. with trulicity, i click to activate what s within me. if you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar numbers with a non-insulin option, click to activate your within. ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity. will melania trump be a model first lady? here is jeanne moos. she s been a model. she s done commercials. she may seem like an odd duck for a first lady. but melania trump is just like us. at least on first glance at her facebook where she posts videos of beautiful beaches. and that great aero smith concert she ae tended, as well as the fun night with her two boys, the donald and her son barron. the donald the driving. and barron is riding shotgun. and some of her older photos of fun. bat womanen for halloween. wearing a the cat suit. and then this photo. the okay maybe she s not just like us. not everyone has fans. and not everyone goes to galas in the designer gowns. and think christian, beautiful job. fantastic job. reporter: you can t say melania hasn t had plenty of training for all of those dinners she and president trump will be hosting. and updating her instagram became first lady melania trump. and writing such an honor to strit white house. little did she know this would end up being her home when she tweeted this photo captioned at home with my husband. don t worry melania. there is a piano in the white house should you feel the urge to recline. jeanne moos cnn new york. thanks for watching. don t forget you can watch