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Tactics when it's life or death. david, is it okay to have bad tactics? >> it's not. >> no. >> i didn't say it was okay. >> you just said that. >> don't put words in my mouth. i didn't say -- >> i wish we could run the tape back. you just said -- >> play the tape back. i didn't say it was okay. i said it happens. >> okay. >> i said it happens. >> one of the things we need to do -- >> you said it's not against the law. >> his tactic's got nothing to do with this shooting. all right? the tactics had nothing to do with him perceiving a threat. >> i disagree. >> it didn't. >> with harry because th...

All right, so we're back now. harry, you said maybe david is dead after that. but philando castile is dead. his daughter was in the car. here's what she said right after the shooting. >> it's okay, i'm right here with you. >> that's his fiancee's daughter. and then he said, i don't want you to be shooted, mommy. >> it's horrible. >> this guy sounded pretty calm. i'm not a police officer, i was not there. he sounded calm. sounds to me, he was trying to tell the officer, i have a license to carry. the officer cut him off. >> how can you say that? >> harry, listen, this is don. >> don, he didn't ...

With you. >> okay. i'll wait. >> sir, i have to tell you, i do have a -- >> okay. >> -- firearm -- >> don't reach for it. don't pull it out. don't pull it out. [ gunshots ] >> you just killed my boyfriend. >> i wasn't reaching. he wasn't reaching. >> my point is, it happened so fast, he didn't even give the guy time to get all of his words, out, harry. to explain what was going on. >> his hands were moving. >> are you listening to what david -- are you listening to what david is saying? >> yes. >> david is saying if the officer was trained prop herrer >> i was a police officer for 25 years. >>...

>>. >> it's okay, i'm right here with you. >> okay, i'll wait. >> i have to tell you, i do have a firearm on me. i'm -- >> don't reach for it. >> i'm not pulling it out. >> you just killed my boyfriend! he wasn't reaching. >> don't pull it out. don't move! >> so my point is, it happened so fast, he didn't even give the guy time to get all of his words out, harry, to even explain what was going on. >> but his hands were moving. >> are you listening to what david is saying. david is saying, if the officer was trained properly and had gone -- >> i was a police officer for 25 years. >> i know, tha...

That, david. >> no, sir. i opened my statement, saying that i think i understand why the officer was acquitted. i believe he was acquitted because the jury looks at the video and they can't see what's going on. and they believe that perhaps he reached for the gun, creating reasonable doubt. >> i've gotta go. i'm so over i'm going to get in trouble. i'm sorry, everyone. i wish we could continue this conversation, but unfortunately, we cannot. that's it for us. thanks for watching, i'll see you right back here tomorrow. jt your friend daryl here is supposed to be live streaming the wedding and h...