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the verdict and legal process. the response from trump was wold world was fast and furious. chris lacivta said, quote, you ended your campaign. and lara trump, the former president's daughter-in-law who controls the funds as cochair went after hogan. >> he didn't deserve respect of anyone in the republican party at this point, and quite frankly, anyone in the america, that's upsetting to hear that. >> are you welling to cede the senate seat to the democratic party and not support larry hogan? >> what i'll tell you is we want to win as a party, but that is a shame and i think he should have thought long and hard before he said that publicly. >> david jolly is a former republican congressman from florida, so, david, lara trump would not say whether she would pull party resources from hogan, but do you think the rnc is willing to basically throw away, and some people think that's what they're doing, at least a sliver of hope of a senate
if you're donald trump and the rnc, let larry hogan run a republican race that's right for maryland republicans and let him try to win that race. all lara trump has to do is shut up. she couldn't do it out of vanity. vanity is blinding in politics, and we're witnessing that after the trump verdict. >> montana, nevada, ohio, why it wouldn't come to me, i don't know, but it came to me now, and you know, now you've got potentially maryland that they seem to not want to be able to win. former congressman, david jolly, thank you, it's always good to have you on the show. a proposal to bring hostages home, it's on the table. what are the chances it's implemented. a former supreme allied commander at nato will join us next. oin us next
trial expected to go 2 weeks may be a little less. tracy -- tracy. >> trace: david thank you. let's bring in carrie fox news editor back great to have you on. and wondering are you surprised we've -- this thing didn't end with some plea deal? >> yes i'm very surprised etiquette would've been in his best interest to flee out of this. it's a pretty open and check a spirit by his own admission he was her drug use or the time he purchased the gun. prosecution said they have ample evidence and videos and photos and the like from his and thinnest laptop that showed the same character producible case but trace i'll tell you what surprises me the most, not the fact he decided not to do a guilty plea but the fact joe biden is there during the jury
don't see how this conviction does anything for trump trump in terms of bringing those voters into his camp, david, we just heard trump say that he's not sure if quote, the public would stand for it. if he was sentenced to house arrest or prison this is how democratic congressman and senate candidate adam schiff of california responded on cnn's state of the union this is clearly donald trump once again inciting violence potential violence, when he is sentenced what do you make that comment as well as the split in the democratic party that manu discussed. well democrats are seizing on that comment. this is classic trump sort of rhetoric here, right? he, he tossed is something out there that's dangling out there that could be interpreted his opponents get enraged by it and we see his supporters get fortified around it. the split that mountain was talking about. we see that split almost
know, going into the 2024 presidential campaign, how could this impact the campaign? i think this is an enormous development in this race with this announcement tomorrow, depending on what it is and i'll turn to maria here in a moment to ask her. but because i think what is clear here a we know it's an issue that joe biden is running 30 behind on it's one of his weakest spots and all the polling. so whenever you're stepping into talk about and address something that is a weak spot. it's not your greatest day on the campaign trail that's one. but to just pointing to donald trump killing that compromise bill in congress on this clearly is not sufficient. the biden campaign believes they still need to do more to get right? with the american people. but here's the problem. it's going to inevitably invite some backlash from some progressives and left and left in his own home as he gets tougher on border security. and so watching him, the president and his team balance all of that is going to be critical. but how much backlash do you think there's going to be marine? >> so i think you're right about that, david and the keyword that you just said is
joshua steinglass, he spent a lot of time talking about this, he said we didn't choose michael cohen, we didn't go to the witness store and pick him off the shelf. you don't need to want to be in business with him, what you need to do is look at the documents, the documents don't lie or forget. look at the other cooperating witnesses and the first jury note, what did they ask for, they asked for three experts, four experts, of testimony, three of the four were david , so they were hearing what steinglass glass had to say, if you don't like cohen, don't take his word for, take someone, another witness and they seemed to be leaning into taking word. they also said he steinglass spent a lot of time talking about the secret audio recording where they discussed
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