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Late senator would say times are changed. ira shapiro writes the filibuster should not shape the workings of the senate, but the other way around. for byrd and the other senators of his era with overriing goal was to -- but that the senate could deliver for the nation, even if it meant reforming rules like the filibusterle still with us are david fluff and michael steele. lucky for us, too, inside operators. david, to you again, is there a way this could work better? should a guy like jn gian be among it -- is there a work around for hamlet on the hill? >> at the end of the day there has baske...

This day. back with us again tonight, david pluf, former obama campaign manager, former senior adviser to the president, also on the board of directors of the obama found dag, and michael steel, former lieutenant governor of maryland, also host of the michael steele podcast. michael, i have been looking forward to this. there's nothing quite like mike pence when he puts on his pious face. hang mike pence, sure. i don't think we'll ever see eye to eye on the events of that day. this was his chance to draw a little distance with trump, but no, he's just a boy standing in front of new hampshire a...

And tell us, the president and i had a disagreement about the day, but we stand shoulder to shoulder on everything else? it's fundamental that day to everything that happens next in the country. that was a shortcoming for the vice president to sort of approach it that way. >> if it wasn't fundamental it will do until fundamental gets here. david, this is from the atlantic. republicans are not blocking a january 6th commission because they fear trump or want to move on from 2020. they're blocking a january 6th commission because they agree with the underlying ideological claim of the rioters wh...

Barack obama! four months after his speech. at the 2004 democratic national convention, barack obama was elected to the u.s. senate. by an overwhelming majority. michelle promoted to vice president of the university of chicago hospital. the obama's careers and family life were soaring. with the nation at war, and economy faltering. senator obama began eyeing a much bigger role for himself. he turned to a political strategist. david pluf. >> we started talking about running for the president. the day after the 2006 midterm. where would michelle obama come down on the question. >> michelle was...

Barack obama! four months after his speech. at the 2004 democratic national convention, barack obama was elected to the u.s. senate. by an overwhelming majority. michelle promoted to vice president of the university of chicago hospital. the obama's careers and family life were soaring. with the nation at war, and economy faltering. senator obama began eyeing a much bigger role for himself. he turned to a political strategist. david pluf. >> we started talking about running for the president. the day after the 2006 midterm. where would michelle obama come down on the question. >> michelle was...