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Instance, governor de santis in florida, governor abbott in texas, for violating the civil rights of students, of children? >> well, chris, let me say this, not just as surgeon general or as a doctor but let me say this as a father. there is nothing more important than the health and well-being of our children. what we have seen during the course of this pandemic is that covid, thankfully, is not as severe in kids as it is in older adults. thank goodness for that. but we have had hundreds of children who have lost their life to covid, we have thousand whose are hospitalized and right now we ha...

Instance, governor de santis in florida, governor abbott in texas, for violating the civil rights of students, of children? >> well, chris, let me say this, not just as surgeon general or as a doctor but let me say this as a father. there is nothing more important than the health and well-being of our children. what we have seen during the course of this pandemic is that covid, thankfully, is not as severe in kids as it is in older adults. thank goodness for that. but we have had hundreds of children who have lost their life to covid, we have thousand whose are hospitalized and right now we ha...

States like florida and texas are passing bans on mask mandates for the states. >> the left isn't doing anything of this because they're worried about governor de santis. the agenda is based on fear. . sure, fear of covid but fear of climate change, fear of capitalism, fear of standards, fear of hard work, fear of religion, fear of your fellow americans. >> no, screw your freedom, because with freedom comes obligations and responsibilities. you cannot just say i have the right to x, y, and z, when affect other people, that's when it gets serious. howie: joining us in new york, liz claman, and ...

New daily cases, a ten fold increase from early june, people are angrier on all sides. >> a lot angrier. what i find curious, the debate is very focused on masks and mask mandates even though you still have -- in areas of the country where vaccination is very high, you still are not seeing an uptick in deaths. the vaccines are working, they don't prevent all breakthrough infections but they're a tremendously good mitigation effort. yet in places like florida, so the coverage, the criticism from the mainstream media is about how you can't have a mask mandate in schools because of governor de sa...

Are as safe from a severe covid outcome basically as a vaccinated adult is. i'm not of worried about them. i think it's reasonable to worry about the teachers. i would support this, i think employees of public schools, government agencies, the government should require them to get vaccinated or not teach there. that's something that de santis' other order gets in the way of. i can understand criticism of prohibiting vaccine mandates for public employees but the media's not talking about that. they're talking about the mask mandates which are inferior to getting people vaccinated. that's why th...