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To vote, obviously what we just talked about, is crucial. does it have to be bigger than 2008 for president obama to win? >> well, you know, i don't want to be -- you don't want to put too much stock in polls 40 days out, whether we're up, whether we're down, we're concentrating on that ground game. you mentioned the debates earlier in your opening comments, ed. you know, let's not discount the fact that mitt romney is an experienced and skilled debater. he -- >> he's been all over the map, congresswoman. i mean, the guy has been all over the map on health care, on taxes. i mean, he's -- huh? ...

Caucuses and going to vote for my choice right now. >> let me jump ahead on this whole idea of the baits, -- the debates. whoever is the nominee in september or october is going to have a lot of debates under his belt and the president is going to be a little rusty on debates, not having had a challenger. does that matter? >> to the advantage of the republican, yeah. he will know what it's like, be comfortable on the statement, more comfortable than -- look, it's illustrative. president bush did not debate in -- had one debate in this 1998 re-election for governor, and it clearlyhart him going...

Caucuses and going to vote for my choice right now. >> let me jump ahead on this whole idea of the baits, -- the debates. whoever is the nominee in september or october is going to have a lot of debates under his belt and the president is going to be a little rusty on debates, not having had a challenger. does that matter? >> to the advantage of the republican, yeah. he will know what it's like, be comfortable on the statement, more comfortable than -- look, it's illustrative. president bush did not debate in -- had one debate in this 1998 re-election for governor, and it clearlyhart him going...

That really debate performance in orlando, florida. the perry folks want to talk about mitt romney has been in this race for -- he has been running for president for five or six years. we have been in it eight weeks. we are working on the debate aspect. but the americans are looking for a commander-in-chief not a debater in chief. one thing they want to do is change the focus from the performance last night to the jobs roll out that perry is going to do. he is unveiling an economic plan. he has speech in pittsburgh on friday morning. they want to put this behind them and move on to their own s...

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