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pressure arizona governor juicy to overturn the presidential election results. saying that if enough fraudulent votes could be found, it would overcome trump's narrow loss in arizona. we are learning about the content of this conversation for the first time. to already know trump and doocy spoke after the 2020 election. fact. trump tried to call doocy while he was certifying the election for biden on official government livestream. on november 20th, 30 30 -- 2020, d.c. was signing papers to end the election as he did in front of the press. you have to listen closely, you can hear hai...

And as we have been through the programme, if you want to get in touch, you can e mail and get us on social media. One fear has messaged and asked if we will talk about President Obamas debate speech. We will play some pa rt debate speech. We will play some part of that with the help of nick brya nt part of that with the help of nick bryant who was at the speech in new york. Donald Trumps Press Conference was in new york. In washington, the senate has been Holding Confirmation hearings for some of the nominees for the trump administration. Nearly all Cabinet Positions need senate approval, but...

And as we have been through the programme, if you want to get in touch, you can e mail and get us on social media. One fear has messaged and asked if we will talk about President Obamas debate speech. We will play some pa rt debate speech. We will play some part of that with the help of nick brya nt part of that with the help of nick bryant who was at the speech in new york. Donald Trumps Press Conference was in new york. In washington, the senate has been Holding Confirmation hearings for some of the nominees for the trump administration. Nearly all Cabinet Positions need senate approval, but...

Right >> in this one instant allotted side. i have 32nd lap. what are your big tips is new your audience, you need to know who it is your messaging to. my question looking at those candidates as if they have the same audience, if they're trying to persuade different audiences within the republican base. >> good question, mike pence is clearly not gonna go the people that want to hang up. chris christie maybe going for a pundit gig, and ron desantis is out -- they believe that trump will somehow disappear from the scene. and they're fighting for his. crown >> i'm not sure i agree with you on mi...

Irrelevant, i think they are largely irrelevant but you can see with what chris christie did to marco rubio in 2015 or 2016, that a kind of show of weakness can really harm a candidate down the line, and i think that rather than being substantive, you know there are some substantive differences about ukraine, about the privatization of social security and quote unquote entitlement reform, but even more than that i think that especially for a republican audience, what matters about these things are shows of dominance. how donald trump was able to fault himself to the front of the pack however m...