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Members of his own line that want to tow the line on the debt. i don't know that any of these things have to be revenue if you believe that the renaissance of america will create the extra taxes and net the same amount in the coffers of the treasury, which could stand not to spend as much as they normally do. nobody is talking about that. you have these guys that are deficit hawks, debt hawks. i get that. we understand that. wall street wants to continue to hear president trump say over and over again, that we're going to get some tax relief and regulatory relief. >> neil: lindsey, the questio...

And maybe ultimately become citizens through a process, he understands that you first have to secure the border. they say that can't be done. he's a biller. he can build that wall. and then -- and then you can start bringing people in. but everybody has to go before you can determine a rational policy. why? because they'll break the financial back of this country and therefore somebody has to put their foot down and say no. that somebody is donald trump. now i don't know what the lawyers are saying or the court is saying. maybe this is a symbolic argument but if it is, it's winning votes. >> w...

Attention. you go back and look at how much republicans were in favor of having astronomical defense budgets during the earlier part of this decade, during the iraq war, all for afghanistan. the defense -- the debt hawks are now trumpeting over the defense hawks in an unbelievable way which we have not seen in contrary american history in regards to republican ideology. it's fascinating and something that john boehner and mitch mcconnell don't want to touch. it would be possible for republicans to join with democrats, i'm talking about defense hawks, to get some sort of deal over. there's enou...

Candidate, to hand a street a democrat. >> happened in missouri with todd akin. it that plays out, the democrats sent money to todd ache ton make him t -- aiken to make him the nominee. not the exact thing. some difference. and this idea on its face doesn't sound like a bad idea, what the president talked about. attach raising the debt ceiling to a very popular bill to reform the v.a. why that didn't work. >> this was publicly, mcconnell was talking about it, republican leaders talking about it, a couple of articles written about it. as manu says, the freedom caucus, the folks on the conservat...

Of transparency, but also the human beings already working in this country to address these issues, schools, hospitals, energy sustainability, local political reform. recently an article caught one of our producer's eyes. "washington post" wrote about everything in our policies, whether it's the debt hawks, whether it's the spending people, all of this nonsense, from jobs to housing, there's really reasons why it hasn't been dealt with. because we never resulted in the housing market, and ultimately disrupted the labor market, until you deal with that food chain, you're screwed. that, he said,...