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River. but her guess here is a blake masters. and for all of the events that are being touted as blake masters has been spending most of them with her, so that s how you see it play out in here. she has a charisma that appealed to a large swath of america the maricopa county, the electric their frankly turned, off by the likes of donald trump. that is where we have seen carry the katie hobbs, the democrats, but also the likes of liz cheney, went up in the airway city on the million dollar ad, trying to press upon voters here, that kari lake is somebody who still calls for the decertification of the 2020 election. that she is an election denier and that she is a threat. somebody who is even defended the 15-week abortion ban here in the state of arizona. because democrats here, katie hobbs campaign sees this as a path forward. if they are able to convince enough conservatives, anti trump conservatives, independents here, that katie hobbs is palpable. somebody that they can justify ....
Which is why republican liz cheney is in arizona speaking out. but not there to campaign for masters the republican, she is there to campaign against him. saying he and the republican candidate for governor, kari lake are dangerous, and that other republicans should vote for democrats instead. joining me now is nbc s vaughn hillyard, following those races from phoenix, arizona. tell us what s going on. you know, for liz chainy, and this is the situation, when we re talking about her own primary, less than two months ago, she got walloped in her own state by nearly 39 percentage points among republican voters. and so that s a question, what kind of impact would she have on some of those conserve tives that are very much anti-trump, very much pro decertification of a fair and accurate election results, and as well as independents. can she come into places like arizona and try to woo some of those folks over to the likes of ....
Statement saying these allegations were meritless and they d fight each and every one of them in court. joining us now someone who s seen it all when it comes to the former president. investigative reporter david johnson. paul, how strong a case do you think this is? it s a case that can be contested, no doubt, because remember the district attorney of manhattan was investigating the same thing on the criminal side and decided not to proceed with the case. but in reading over the allegations, there are a staggering number of allegations. it s a 200-page story of what the attorney general describes as persistent fraud perpetwitted by the trump organization. and she s seeking what s called the corporate death penalty which would be decertification of the trump business in new york so they couldn t do ....
Elections, winners win, losers lose and try next time if you don t win. that s how it s supposed to work but the extreism we re seeing in candidates we re talking about, including the one i m running against are backed up by election deniers pumping a lot of money into the races. obviously, we could use as much help as possible but we don t just need help for the campaign. we need help to have stability in the government so that everybody else around can do the business of america, which is business. reporter: adrian, thanks for your time. thanks. reporter: jose, here in arizona the governor, secretary of state and attorney general, each individual is required to certify the state s election results. three republicans running for the three positions have each called for the decertification of joe biden s 2020 win that put a lot of question marks about how they would operate come 2024 in a fair election. jose? vaughn thank you so much. here to continue the conversation is carlos ....
And being responsible for one of the ones that certify the state i elections and secretary of state did certify joe biden s election but you look who is running for the 2022 secretary of state positions you see a slew of republicans across five states who are election deniers in the key states, arizona, minnesota, michigan, new mexico but also in pennsylvania. doug mastriano, if he wins he d appoint his own secretary of state and i want to bring in the democrat running here to hold that position because he s taking on mark who called for the decertification of the 2020 election. adrian is a democrat. you were the former maricopa county recorder here. perhaps, you ve always found election operations sexy but for a lot of people, you re the new ....