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Going to happen is if these republicans are defeated. you can't negotiate with these people. how do you meet the guy in the camp auschwitz sweatshirt halfway? you just have to crush them. you have to fight. and liz cheney knows that and she's a fighter. >> james, i want to ask you this question, question i'm now asking everybody. donald trump gets indicted over this doj probe, can donald trump be nominated by the republican party while being -- while under indictment? do you think that's a plausible scenario? >> i think it's certainly a plausible scenario, yeah. >> the republican party -- even...

What happens in a court of law. so, all of these statements are going to be admissible, and i don't think are going to help him. >> i want to get to the threats on law enforcement, joyce, because you're here. i think it's good to start with you. is there any way in which -- you know, we've seen the things we talked about at the beginning of the block, we saw what happened in cincinnati last week. there's a lot of concern among everyone in federal law enforcement about the atmosphere that we're now in, and i will say that although there are a handful of republicans who are not going hard at law...

Of homeland security under barack obama. he's talking about the declassification matter, which, at some level, i find their assertions, their arguments so laughable that i almost don't want to waste time on them but they are what they continue to say, kash patel and others, so let's read what jeh johnson says. "the defense by trump's team that trump issued standing orders were deemed to be declassified the moment he removed them is nothing short of laughable. it's like saying that the speed limit on the new jersey turnpike is whatever speed the governor chooses to drive at any given moment." i...

Covert operative, and msnbc legal analyst andrew weissmann, a former doj prosecutor and senior member of robert mueller's special counsel investigation, and here with me onset, i can't believe my luck, the joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, now law professor at the university of alabama. guys, so much happening here. andrew, start with you. just tell me about the interviews of philbin and cipollone. what does it mean? what does it portend? is it significant or something that's just matter of course? >> well, it's not a matter of course the department of justice interviews former white house co...