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Supposed to work. and now those 16 written records could become a key part of special counsel jack smith's case against former president trump. according to cnn the 16 presidential records may provide critical evidence establishing the former president's awareness of the declassification process, a key part into trump's mishandling of classified documents and the records may also provide insight into trump's intent and whether he willfully disregarded what he knew to be clearly established protocols. so these records seem fairly important, is why the doj apparently subpoenaed them earlier this...

His lawyers can find it legitimate enough to test this. so i think there's a high probability he will appeal, or try to block. >> thank you, appreciate it. on top of all this, one of the former president's attorneys in the documents case, timothy parlatore, is leaving the legal team. that's what two sources familiar with the matter tell cnn. one of our guests reports as well. maggie haberman, author of -- the making of donald trump and breaking of america. >> so maggie, if the national archives all right, if they have proof that he was informed of the correct procedure, what does that say abou...

Hard evidence that shows donald trump and his top advisors knew of the correct declassification process while donald trump was president which flies in the face of what trump has claimed in the past. tonight the documents could be in the hands of the special counsel as we speak in a criminal probe. now, in just a moment we will try to get answers from trump's lawyer who will be joining me live. first, a look at the brand-new information gathered by our cnn team. their sources say there are 16 records that the national archives is handing over to jack smith. the records apparently indicate trum...

Tim timothy parlatore testified in december. his exit at a critical time when the special counsel may be nearing the final stretch in the criminal probe. we have one of the members still on donald trump's team. his name is jim trustee, and he joins us now. jim, thank you for being here. let's get right into it. as president of the united states, did donald trump know how the declassification process worked or did he just ignore it? >> well, president trump was exactly right in your town hall the other day. he is aware of a bureaucratic process that can be used. he used that process in the midd...

Defense team announced that he would be stepping down, that he claims his departure as nothing to do with the underlying case. joining us now is national security lawyer mark zaid and charlie savage, washington correspondent for the new york times. thank you both for joining me. mark, let me start with you. in terms of the legal implications of all of this, what does trump's awareness mean in terms of the eyes of the law, as far as his -- when he knew about the declassification process and what he was saying and doing? >> it's very significant, alex, because it goes to a state of mind, which i...