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Less - it will just intensify all the feelings and all the triba politics out there and it will force th republican party - i think this is bad news for ron desantis in some ways, maybe to rally around trum even more, because he will demand it. this is the oath of loyalty he will demand from all republicans. support me on this, mccarthy already has. you are in the ring with me. >> yeah, i was going to, say i'm totally with you on this when i think republicans are all about protection when they are coming out and saying the weaponization o government they're projectin that that's exactly what t...

Virtue of what your son recorded. now you're trying to explain that. i think the narrative really, erica, was that you lied to your clients, took money from quadriplegics, took money from minors and teenagers, looked them in the eye like you looked the jury in the eye, what is to say you're not lying to us. by virtue of what that juror said, clearly he was of the view, that juror, that he was continuing to lie. i think that told the whole story in town. >> sara ford, to your credit you were predicting on this broadcast that a conviction was likely here. to joey's point, the juror who had spoke...

And murdaugh is six foot four. there is a lot to work with in the defense argument. >> are you surprised after the trial, ryan, that there is not more fiscal evidence that was presented during the trial? >> i am not surprised about that. what i am surprised about talking about the brain matter of paul being on the ground was the lack of human emotion coming from murdaugh. i think that's his one area that's going to hurt in this case. >> yeah. >> i thought there should have been much more emotions when he testified. you see your loved ones dead right there. his soul was devoi of emotions. that'...

Maggie had some hair under her fingernails or on her hand that they would have tested that. what the defense argument is that they focus on alex exclusively and didn't do anything else to find out if anybody else killed these two people other than the focus on alex. they feel that was wrong and clearly they believe that should lead to reasonable doubt. >> harris: now before we go back to the trial, last week when you and i were together and alex murdaugh was on the stand you said this is compelling. this side right now has the advantage of a great defendant on the stand. looking back at all of...

Too. they paid for it with their lives. >> for more on what to make on today's development inside and outside the courtroom. let's bring in our criminal defense and trial attorney, ryan, if you are defense going into close arguments tomorrow. what are the points you want to hit? >> three words, where is the evidence? that's a defense argument tomorrow. they're going to hammer the fact that the guns were not found. there is little blood anywhere that the minor amount of gunshot residues could have come from someone else a year ago. then you add in two shooters based on the trajectory of bullets...