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Occur? i think what we're going to look at down the road, particularly as you talk about serious budget and deficit negotiations is a question of now the president. if he decides to move on entitlement reform, where is the liberal wing of his party? where is the left ring of his par party. >> before even raising the notion of entitlement reform, talking about cpi, cost of living index, maybe changing some of those areas. >> grievances as well. add eavesdropping to the list. there's a lot of liberal complaints that have been under the surface because you have loyalty to democratic president. as...

Outsiders, insueders on capitol hill. this is a cumulative peck. first benghazi. what's the they say publicly. we had stories about the democrats doing the immigration bill, asking the president not to get involved because they are doing just fine. >> that's because when he got involved in the deficit negotiations they went south. the problem is that this president simply does not have significant political skills at that level. he does not like to do that sort of thing. so he pulls himself away from the pearl, early -- politics and in this case, nsa scandal where he -- has refused to come for...

The buildup of these problems, finally shows up when you see a report like yesterday which shows what does it mean over a ten-year period of time? debt doesn't kill you the first day. it's how it builds up. but you have to look at how it builds up. and now it's really building up. >> and deficits don't kill you, mika, the first day, the first year, the second year. as jeffrey and i were saying, back in january of 2009, it's not the deficits that kill you. it's wasting the money which they wasted during the stimulus, as jeffrey and i said, that kills you. we can afford short-term deficits if we...

Okay, maybe that's hyperbole. but just be a tiny bit, i mean, mandatory gay marriage, in which every single married straight person had to immediately divorce their spouse, and accept a state-assigned same-gender spouse to replace them would probably be more popular than what john boehner proposed this week. what bjorn baijohn boehner is a is making medicare available to fewer americans. as it happens, there is brand-new polling out today on how americans feel about the idea of congress using these deficit negotiations to make cuts to medicare.ç 79% of americans say they do not want congress...

Like is this your final answer? are you sure? are you sure about that? i think that what we're going to see play out in the next few days, are democrats going to reduce their $1 trillion expectations for revenue growth? or are they going to move that down a little bit? try and meet republicans somewhere in the middle? maybe. i really wonder if that's truly his final, final offer. >> the focus has been on republicans and the divide within the republican party on tax increases or not. but there is something of a split in the democratic party as well on entitlements. some people a lot of politica...