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I think that is right. i don't think this rises to the level of contempt. chancellors has asked the court to the lawyers to shower show caused. notice it would ask smith to defend himself against charges of contempt. the judge might say the motions concert on the record and the trump camp is no obligation to respond, or she might ask the court to take these off of the record and give smith leave to file when jurisdiction returns to her. smith is trying to keep trump from running the clock. i assume he is very frustrated with trump's delay game. doing everything he can to keep hold of his trial...

Jurisdiction to do anything else while the immunity appeal is ongoing. and frankly this a good argument the judge does lacked that jurisdiction and that smith should not have filed these motions while that appeal was ongoing. >> so what happens then? let's say the judge agrees with him. does he just sort of put it on hold and bring it up when the trial is back in motion? >> yeah. i think that is right. i don't think this rises to the level of contempt. chancellors has asked the court to the lawyers to shower show caused. notice it would ask smith to defend himself against charges of contempt. ...

The indictment yet? we don't know yet what these charges are entail. i think it's a completely different game. he's playing now his legal team. is well practiced everybody around him as well practiced in trying to play delay game. you know, there's a reason why donald trump announced when he did right. he thought that this would help him if the with all the investigations going on and would help emphasize his victimhood, right, um it ended up getting him a special counsel, right? which is something he did not want. so everything that he thinks all the strategies that have worked for him so wel...

And so that's the reason why you saw the extraordinary speed. they've made a ruling this afternoon, and now we expect kevin corcoran is going to appear in court as soon as friday, and we'll see whether the justice department what the justice department does after that. right all right. thank you very much. evan, and let's go now to ty cobb, the former trump white house lawyer. as i said, it had been sort of like, you know, ripping the band aid off hair by hair. and then all of a sudden, it's boom, boom, boom, boom. six am okay now evan corcoran's coming in as soon as friday. i mean, it just ha...

Robbery. prosecutors want to put him in the grand jury what to say, what's involved, what's happened. here, where pence got those very likely is there was an effort to recruit him for conspiracy, to interfere with the government. prosecutors are entitled to get all of the details, and then prosecutors, and a jury, can draw the conclusion about whether anything criminal happened. >> i don't think you have to be clairvoyant to know that trump's team, will likely, claim executive privilege and i wonder if you think you know that from them, or if you hear from pence's team. >> because this happens...