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Need to aspire to go. and it shouldn't be that hard. we've never fixed testing in this country. >> we're also hearing cases are rising among children. the vaccine for kids 5 to 11 rolled out more than a month ago. you specialize in vaccines for kids. what about kids under 5? >> well, three components to this. first of all, we know what happens with this -- with these delta waves because it was here in texas and in the southern states. as this delta wave ripped through the south we saw thousands of pediatric hospitalizations, even for the first time pediatric intensive care units get overwhelme...

At the height of the delta waves, when you see people near you getting sick or hospitalized or when you have this fear of a new variant, it's enough to overcome some of that resistance or some people who i talked to in the e.r., it's not even resistance, just the vaccine is the lowest thing on their list so when the fear gets higher the incentive to get your shot goes up. it may be the small, one hidden blessing from this variant that it protects the rest of us from delta that's already out there. >> one more thing before you go, the national institute of health, head francis collin says given...

Board certified radiologist. that's what the latest tracking on covid cases for the state of new york up on the screen. now at about 6200 cases per day on the seven day rolling average. you can see the spike there. is this another indication that, like the flu, covid may be here to stay? >> that's right, john. we did see cases come down from the delta waves. they did plateau at a relatively high number. unfortunately, while the northeast was not hit as high, we are seeing a rise in cases. and i can tell you throughout new york city and new jersey, we have been having snow flurries. what does t...

Death? ., ., ., , terms of causing serious illness or death? ., ., , ~ ., ., death? no, and as people know at this point. — death? no, and as people know at this point. by _ death? no, and as people know at this point. by the _ death? no, and as people know at this point, by the time _ death? no, and as people know at this point, by the time we - death? no, and as people know at this point, by the time we know i this point, by the time we know about hospitalisations and deaths, we are two to four weeks down the line, and we could delay the incursions of that virus into the country and i say ...

The evidence for the robustness of naturally acquired immunity. what does this study mean for the rest of us? >> well, look, this study is basically joining a collage of studies almost definitively demonstrating that natural immunity come acquired natural immunity from prior infection is quite robust. but really the importance of the study is focused on high-risk group of people who are health care workers. it is really demonstrating that as the vaccine immunity is quite effective, but as it dwindles through the delta waves, that the folks who were actually naturally infected, previously infec...