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This administration, that was the crime in many cases. the average american doesn't think, when they think about immigrants creating crimes, they're not entirely sure it was the first crime, which is articulated in 1325, that's cross been unlawfully. you think that should be eliminated, it should not be a crime to cross into the country unlawfully? >> that's right. before this law was passed in the 1920s, but from the 1920s until about 2004, it was actually rarely enforced as a crime. it was enforced -- it was still illegal. there were still consequences to crossing the border, but those conse...

Some have court dates. they'll start into deportation process. what advice where you advice we able to give them? >> what we were doing was providing appropriate education to know the protocols and procedures. we were there for what we've been discussing. people all over the nation know american citizen children who have been inflicted with horror, terror in their homes, children who have the right to live in liberty with their families, we provided them an attorney to give them advice on their cases. while we were there we found inferences of improprieties. many of those detained and released...

Proceedings out of custody from home. >> so tell me about that because i think the average person doesn't really know the difference between one of these arrests and raids and the deportation process as julia ainsley said that there's a remarkable backlog of the hearings that these people go through. but what happens now? they were arrested, many of them have been released to home. they will in some fashion go on with their lives. i assume they don't go back to work for the place that they were just raided at. >> no. they won't be going back to work there. but so each individual will be assess...

Prosecute in a criminal way migrants for crossing the border illegally? >> i would rather that we not use section 1325 that way and up until about 2004, from 1929 until 2004, that was rarely ever used. so whether you're talking about bill clinton, george hw. bush, ronald reagan, jimmy carter, essentially these matters were treated as civil matters. i think most americans don't realize, when we talk about a deportation process, that is not a criminal matter. that is a civil matter. so there's consequences for coming across the border, but this administration, the trump administration has weapon...

Immigration system. and making sure that we end family detention. >> would there be civil penalty for crossing the border? >> most people don't realize in the country when we talk about for instance the deportation process, that is a civil process. that is not a criminal process. so, crossing the porder would remain against the law. there would be consequences. many of the same consequences today. however, we would get rid of the law that's the tool that the trump administration or a future administration could use in order to separate children from parents. and i'll tell you, anderson, to the...