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>> can we talk a bit about the strategy, jonathan, just in terms of how desantis' team thinks it's going to be an alternative to trump without saying anything bad about trump or actually fighting him. >> yeah, i've actually asked his folks about this question, and what i think their view in desantis world is he's got to define himself, introduce himself, get some of the bioout there, the fact he served in the navy, for example, is not that well-known. even among gop primary voters. i think they want to get the bio out there the first couple of months before they engage trump. i get the strateg...

That it, quote, broke the internet. even though many other live stream events have gotten a bigger audience than that and other platforms can have more than a million people, traditional media outlets have millions of eyeballs as well. some of the critics are saying this is a missed opportunity, at best. others calling it a disaster. i did speak with a bundler for governor desantis who is expected to be here at an upscale hotel where the governor is expected to meet donors and fund-raisers later today. he tried to tell me that the general consensus is among people he is talking to in desantis ...

>> so, one of the arguments the desantis world has been making to this point is the idea of electability, which is why some donors have gotten jittery in recent weeks because of the positions he's taken on ukraine, abortion and others. they feel like he is moving too far to the right, and that wouldn't play in a general election. we saw some state polls a few days ago which showed him in hypothetical matchups against president biden. fairing much better than trump would in states republicans haven't really played in, in colorado, virginia, minnesota among them. is that still going to be a big ...