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That there were tens of thousands of people in these two big counties and probably more in the rest of the state who were deterred from voting because of the i.d. requirement. the vast majority would have been democratic voters. i think it's not hard to see that the i.d. requirement probably had enough of a depressive effect. >> she fought very hard. >> that it could have denied clinton the victory. >> is it a determinative factor? no. was it a factor? absolutely. >> what do you say to people like the governor of wisconsin? he called it a pile of crap regarding voter i.d. laws. >> voter suppre...

Decline can in those of color as well as latinos according to that projection? >> yes and this is oner of the things they're trying to use to say race is a determinative factor. the people are court says we can use race anded a mugzs admissi diversify our classes. the question that they may not be at the institution runs directly along with the supreme court's prs dent to say we need diversify our campus and that's a noenl dole and to have kiebds

Whomever wins this race? >> well, fortunately people lie the lawyers' committee for civil rights are on this thing and file expedited legal motions, and permanent injunctions. we found out about it so far ahead of time with 20-plus days, but the problem is it absolutely could be a determinative factor, because this race is close. here's the way you beat -- of that is the only surefire way to fight voter suppression. you do have the per se obstacles put in place. souls to the polls, it takes all fronts. churches, schools, everybody has to come to the table. luckily we know about it this far in ...

Veracity of your clients story. >> it's not good. i use to practice law as a younger fellow and this is a bad back but it's not a determinative factor by any means. at the end of the day, you have to get past the salacious nature of this whole thing and look to the nature of the claims. it is what they are saying true? will they have a day in court and ultimately, is that something that is provable? and in this me too moment that it's affected all of our professional and public and private lives, the president is not the one person who gets to say, they were paid, that is not the case. "the ne...

>> it's not good. i use to practice law as a younger fellow and this is a bad back but it's not a determinative factor by any means. at the end of the day, you have to get past the salacious nature of this whole thing and look to the nature of the claims. it is what they are saying true? will they have a day in court and ultimately, is that something that is provable? and in this me too moment that it's affected all of our professional and public and private lives, the president is not the one person who gets to say, they were paid, that is not the case. "the new york times," "washington post,...