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You know, i can take they say that their job is law enforcement. but there are policymakers, kevin mcallenen at the top. i know they didn't tell the white house because they wanted to avoid leaks. for someone in the white house not to have said this is back timing -- in fact the president was asked about this by kristen welker on friday. he said that they were happy about the deterrent value. >> correct. that's something that's significant. quite a while now this has been seen by many as a deterrent. the administration hasn't come out and said it. on friday, president trump called this a deter...

This mass influx of people coming across our border. it is overwhelming our system. >> but how about how we are treating these children? >> look, as i said to you, i was at the detention center in nogales a few months ago. it is a heart breaking scene. these are people who are being exploited by human traffickers. who charge them $5,000 a person to entice them to take their vulnerable children -- >> but now these kids are in our custody. >> but so congress has to act. >> the question is, can the administration fix this problem? do they want to? is there any deterrent value in withholding from ...

Defensive counter air that are -- that could be used to counter any kind of potential attack at sea. >> and there are several other ships part of the carrier group with the lincoln. do you get a sense, i know we spoke last weekend about the u.s. military getting prepared for possibly war. do you get a sense that things have ramped up in the last week? >> reporter: to be honest, kendis, i've seen the tensions have gone up and down since we've been in the region for the past couple of weeks. at times it seems like the maritime threat seems to -- the tension seems to go down and then now of cours...

Don't want to be a moralist by any means, there's other people who can judge you, but part of a factor in sentencing someone is not only punishment but it's deterrents. you have to send a message that certain conduct is not appropriate, it will not be tolerable, it is just unacceptable. >> we're going to stop contributions to sailing programs at other schools? most of them don't even have any boats, joey. >> it's not about the sailing program, it's about the administrator who exercises authority over any program, we're not talking about sailing, we're talking about anything and everything wher...

What's he giving out tours of the san francisco bay or something? >> before i state my points of disagreement. >> be a hard ass. go ahead. >> to my esteemed counsel let me say a couple things. look, this is a teachable moment for a number of reasons. number one, we know that judges are king in their courtroom. the prosecutor recommended 13 months, what did the judge say, no thank you. even stanford itself provided a victim impact statement where they said you've cost us dearly, you've cost us reputation nael, cost us as it related to the federal -- >> paul calls bs on that victim impact statem...