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Constituents. they need to be here on behalf of their constituents, not the special interest here in washington. >> to play devil's advocate for a second. you are a progressive from a safe district in wisconsin. joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are moderates from states where a republican is just as likely to be elected as a democrat. more so in west virginia for manchin. and they just don't share the same views of this budget bill that you do and that progressives do. from their point of view, you're forcing them to do something that they don't think is right for the country and you are holding...

Conference. it puts republicans, i think, in a mind. so, i would think are the a democratic perspective it would be tactically useful. >> let me play devil's advocate for a second. the argument goes if you bring rudy giuliani he's going to also want to then have to discuss or want to discuss hunter biden, bre burisma and try to make that center stage. that's what he's out there investigating, the various conspiracy theories out there. do you open a bit of a pandora's box, by bringing in rudy giuliani you're also going to have to touch those things that have those individuals hauled up in front...

Separation of challenge arguments in both states that are going to end up in court. i think the legislature has to get it, and they clearly don't. citizens don't want this. in michigan, another quick example, 400,000 citizens signed a petition to raise the minimum wage. 400,000. the legislature is going behind them trying to undo that. that is a complete violation of what citizens demanded. those same people are going to organize and put it on the ballot. that's the backlash, legislative backlash -- citizen backlash against these legislative moves. >> i don't like some of the policies, you kno...

Withdraw from eastern ukraine and crimea. he couldn't do any of that and today the country is stunned and the world is stunned and america is a whole lot weaker than we were going into today. >> president trump says that he's doing this because he wants the united states and russia to have a stronger relationship. take a listen to him talking about why that's important. >> nothing would be easier politically than to refuse to meet, to refuse to engage but that would not accomplish anything. as president, i cannot make decisions on foreign policy in a futile effort to appease partisan critics o...

In a separated fashion so they kept the russia investigation clean. >> manafort and gates -- play devil's advocate for a second. manafort and gates are charged with crimes regarding laalleged money laundering -- >> that's their elections, not ours. >> but it has to do with ties and back door -- >> it has nothing to do with the 2016 election. >> i don't think we know that. >> i think all we've seen is comments like, sure, we'll talk to -- marketing. continuing their marketing into that part of the world, talking to people they've had ten-year relationships with and who the news plays up as, oh,...