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Right in the middle of the 2022 midterm elections. >> bret: shannon, we have been through these big cases before. we have talked about it. it is interesting to listen to the questions. you can't really get to what moo means just by the questions. >> yeah. because a lot of times, you know, expbluives are arguments may be playing devil's advocate and may press both sides. you can't read too much into it you can get some hints and clues but nothing really matters until votes are cast and on paper. >> bret: shannon bream outside the court today and all day. shannon, see you don't. thanks. >> shann...

Jury that his client was acting in self-defense. >> yeah, so what are you going to be looking for because clearly the prosecutor laid out what i think is going to be the heart of her closing argument, which is this point by point recitation of what happened and the fact that in his own words, the defendant, at least one of the three defendants says didn't get threatened, no knife, no gun, nothing. the guy was running away from him many times. never said anything let alone anything threatening. so what can the defense say? >> again, this is going to be very very tough, and i'm going to play dev...

Devil's advocate we're like okay, let's actually discuss this, though. we may all feel this way but why do we feel this way. >> devil's advocate you again wanted to be sure. >> i wanted to make sure that everyone understood and we dissected each others little paragraphs, and we just took our time with it. we were patient with it. which was a little frustrating. you're locked up in a room, you can't go anywhere, but it had to be done, and we did it. we looked at each of those paragraphs. we dissected each of those sentences and made sure everyone understood and took another vote. >> even though...

Functions, that's a real statement about how our actual elections impact the ability to have the checks and balances we need in our democracy. they are not apparent there. >> look in, his defense, not my job, but let me give you the devil's advocate here, he's a republican not welcome by his own leadership and would have an incredibly tough path to re-election. let's assume he got there, the republicans think they will take power next year, not welcome in their leadership, makes sense to say i'm going to take a break and figure this out and takes off the elected battlefield one of the very few...

Was kind of like, oh, my gosh, you're totally right. there is intent where to not provide lifesaving measures. when he knew three times there was no pulse. >> so then you take a vote and everybody's okay with that, so you have the first two, right, then you have to go to murder in the second degree. unintentional murder in the second degree, and what was that one like? >> we started with the third charge which was manslaughter, and then we did the charge 2 which is where we decided he was guilty based on the not acting. and then charge 1 which is the highest charge was the last one we voted on...