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And so he allowed -- he didn't want it for a diversified economy. you would need sort of a real country to have that. he preferred to let this be the one industry. he consolidated it all within its own power. and that's fine for a while. eventually you run to the end of the economic road there and that's where they are. >> devil's advocate. in a world addicted to dinosaur juice. oil and gas. how should oil companies be? oil companies wake up every morning to fulfill our addiction to oil and gas. what should they be doing? how should they behaving that they have not been? >> the thing that is i...

Oil and gas as a weapon. and so he allowed -- he didn't want it for a diversified economy. you'd need sort of a real country to have that. he preferred to let this be their one industry. that's fine for a while but eventually you run to the economic road there, and that's where they are. >> devil's advocate. in a world addicted to dinosaur juice, oil and gas, how should oil companies be? oil companies wake up every morning to fulfill our addiction to oil and gas. what should they be doing? how should they be behaving that they have not been? >> the thing that is interesting to me in the big pi...

And so he allowed -- he didn't want it for a diversified economy. you would need sort of a real country to have that. he preferred to let this be the one industry. he consolidated it all within its own power. and that's fine for a while. >> devil's advocate. in a world addicted to dinosaur juice. oil and gas. how should oil companies be? oil companies wake up every morning to fulfill our addiction to oil and gas. what should they be doing? how should they behaving that they have not been? >> the thing that is interesting to me in the big picture for this book is that i think really we underest...

Because he wanted to use oil and gas as a weapon. so he allowed -- he didn't want a diversified economy, you'd need a real country in order to have that. he preferred to let this be their one industry. he consolidated it all within its own power. that's fine for a while but eventually are you run into the end of the economic road there and that's where they. >> devil's advocate, addicted to deign sawyer jui dinosaur juice, oil and gas. oil companies wake up every morning to fulfill our addiction to oil and gas. what should they be doing? how should they be behaving that they have not been? >> ...

Whether it's fighting climate change. whether it's dealing with the 1.5 trillion dollars in student debt. whether it's dealing with health care, affordable health care. people want these things. >> but -- but, i hear you on people wanting change and where i play devil's advocate. then senator obama ran on change. right? there's change and then there's change. look at this cnn poll another takeaway, 56% of potential democratic voters prefer a policy approach most likely to become law pap compromise, democrats and republicans get together and get something done versus a policy approach such mass...