being on. let s reset at the top of the hour now. i m anderson cooper. thank you for joining us. we re following two major breaking stories that the hour. the downing of malaysian airlines flight 17 that killed 298 people in ukraine. and i m wolf blitzer reporting from jerusalem. the other major story, the breaking story we were following, the crisis in gaza, where israel launched a major ground offensive and it continues. a lot to get you up to date on in this hour. president obama today laying out the priorities and the aftermath of the airline crash in the ukraine. the priorities, learning the truth first, he say then acting. there has to be a credible international investigation into what happened. the u.n. security council has endorsed this investigation and we will hold all its members, including russia, to their word. in order to facilitate that investigation. russia, pro-russian separatists and ukraine must adhere to an immediate cease-fire. evidence must not be tampered with. investigators need access to the crash site. and the solemn task of returning those lost on board the plane to their loved ones needs to go forward immediately. here s what we know. when malaysian airlines flight 17 went down yesterday, most of the people on board, 189, were from the netherlands. president obama today identified by name one american who was also killed. the airline announcing today that they will make an initial cash payment of $5,000 to the family of each passenger. it sounds like very little amount of money. meant to cover travel expenses, immediate expenses, to the crash side. an audio recording ukrainian officials say they intercepted. and one of the voice on the tape describing debris falling from the sky and saying, quote, he s 100% sure the plane is a civilian aircraft. the question of course, did anyone know it was a civilian aircraft before they shot it down. whichever side of the you d cra ukraine conflict is found spons ashlgs these deaths were not involved in that conflict. an asian airliner filled with people from all over the world. and everyone agrees there will be some sort of backlash, certainly some impact. jim sciutto is our chief national security. the question now is where will that backlash come, who will feel it, what form will it take. most likely russia. the president clearly treading very carefully here in his comments about the white house. saying we have to be certain first of exactly what happened. so they re taking their time. but, more and more, the evidence coming from the u.s. side and the ukrainian side points to some russian involvement. the president said so in so many words. he said that this, in his words, is not an accident. a plane cannot be shot down without sophisticated equipment. and he says that sophisticated equipment, including anti-aircraft missiles, are coming from russia. we re just learning now that the working theory of u.s. intelligence now is that this missile system, which both u.s. and ukrainian officials believe was responsible for taking down this passenger yet, this buk system we ve talked a lot about, anderson, that it was supplied to the rebels by russia. that would be a shocking revelation if confirmed. because it means russia would not just be indirectly responsible for this, but directly responsible. and that means greater consequences. the trouble is, how severe are those consequences. just a day before this crash, president jim, i just got to interrupt you. there s a pentagon briefing. we ll go to that live. and that support has included arms, material and training. as we investigate who did this and why, this terrible tragedy underscores the need for russia to take immediate and concrete steps to deitescalate the crisi in ukraine. and i have one update on cape bray. the crew aboard cape bray continue their work to neutralize materials from the stockpile. as of this morning, the crew has neutralized just over 15% of the df, which is a sarin precursor. this amount has been verified by the international organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons. he s no longer talking about the aircraft itself. actually, let s listen as he is taking questions. let s just see yeah, let s listen in. of russian heavy weapons across the border into ukraine and the president spoke about training, all of that. can you go through this and tell us the latest u.s. assessment, u.s. military assessment, of what the russians have been doing in transferring heavy weapons, surface to air missiles, artillery, other heavy weapons across the border, to separatists on the ukraine side and the training and assistance that you believe russian elements, the russian military, is giving to these separatists. no hint that russian support for the separatists have ceased. in fact, we continue to believe that russia continues to provide them with heavy weapon, military equipment, financing as well. they continue to allow these russian fighters to enter the ukraine freely. there have been, as you know, we ve acknowledged that some tanks, armored personnel vehicles, have made their way across the border. it is a it has been a steady concerted campaign by russia s military to continue to support and resource, advise, these separatists. have you seen there is some video out there, i don t know that you ve seen the particular video, have you seen evidence that an sa-11 or buk missile system would cross the border at some point from russia into ukraine, and what can you tell us about that system and the sophistication and training that would be needed by russian separatists to actually be able to operate it effectively? i don t have specific information about a buk system making that transit. we re not ruling anything in or out at this point. it is it is a sophisticated that said, it is a sophisticated system. the missile itself, the saa 11, which is the one we believe was used to down flight 17, is a sophisticated piece of technology. and it it strained credulity to think it could be used by separatists without at least some measure of russian support and technical assistance. they didn t just do it on their own? it strain e eed crew duality think it could be used without assistance. you have evidence of that? we want investigators to do their work. i don t have an indication now that a system was brought over and we don t exactly know who is responsible for firing that missile or with or with what assistance. what i m saying is that system is fairly sophisticated. so what is the level of their training and assistance? does it include russian forces going across the border into ukraine to work as advisers or trainers side by side with the separatists? there s been russian there s been incursions across the border by russian aircraft so, i mean, i think we have we don t have any reason to suspect that they haven t provided some measure of support on the other side of that border. i mean, these paramilitary forces that we don t talk about as much anymore certainly didn t act or behave or like some ragtag militia. so nobody s suggesting that russian military advice and assistance hasn t somehow crossed that border. it s just unclear exactly how much and when and who. again, that s what the investigators are going to look at. we got to let them do it. are we to believe it was just a coincidence that the president announced sanctions directly on the maker of this buks system just the day before? i won t get into the thought process behind the president s specific decisions. clearly, these are another round of targeted sanctions. designed to change the calculation and president s putin s behavior and decision making. what you re seep m to think what you re suggesting [ inaudible ] i have no information that s the case. second question, what s the working theory about the intent? was this an intended military target gone awry? or was this simply an act of terrorism perhaps? we don t know. again, that s what we ve got to let investigators figure out. we don t know what the motive was here. what is your theory? what is your working theory? i don t think we have a working theory at this point. this just happened yesterday. there s teams of investigators now trying to get to the site and pore through this. we just have to let them do their job. admiral, people in this department have said before that there were about 10,000 to 12,000 regular russian troops inside the russian side of the border, which is a build-up from a couple of weeks ago. is that still your estimate? have those forces changed since this attack yesterday? can you tell us about, you know, as much as you can what they re doing or what their posture is in terms of a potential incursion? yes, that s a great question. i don t know of any major change to that presence. it s roughly, still, about 10,000 to 12,000. and it fleck wait fluctuates ae bit from week to week. the point is, it has been, over time, a steady increase of these combined arms tactical battalions across the border on the russian side but to the southeast of ukraine. and they are close to the border. in many cases, closer than those forces who were more aligned along the east. if you remember, we had tens of thousands that were along the eastern border with ukraine, but not as close as these units appear to be. all they re doing is further escalating tension. it s difficult to know what their intent is. that s a question you should ask the russian military defense. they re there. they re going by size week by week. they do nothing more than escalate tension. is that process separate from these regular i haven t seen any indication they re actively involved in the provision of support to the separatists. i haven t seencontinuing to mas along that side of the border. justin. two questions. do that massing of forces, does that include air, defense, artillery systems like the sa 11 that was used in malaysian have you seen air defense equipment on the russian side of the border in that build-up? i don t have an inventory of what they ve got with them, justin. we assess these are combined arms units. in other words, it s not just infantry troops, but they have artillery capability, they ve got armor capability. they re combined arms. and they re very ready. this is a very capable force. though smaller in number than what was aligned along the border before. i don t have a complete inventory of what they ve got. an estimate of about 12,000 russian troops on the border in the russian side. obviously, the u.s. has been tracking the work of russian special operations forces, russian advisers, russian intelligence services, in ukraine. is there an estimate of the size of that advisory presence inside the eastern ukraine by russian forces? is it a handful? is it 1,000 guys? i don t have the number for you on that. that s less important than the fact that they continue to do it. and we continue to see this support and resourcing and advice given to these separatist groups. we have every indication that support is russian, coming from the russians. in ukraine we believe there are there is russian support for the separatists inside ukraine, yes. admiral, when the general was here a couple weeks ago, he said specifically that the ukrainian separatists were receiving training on russian territory on using what he called vehicle born anti-aircraft systems. how much training, can you elaborate, has that intensified in recent weeks, and was he referring to an as-11-type system? i don t know what assessment he was referring to but we agree some separatists have received training in these vehicle born systems. there s no question about that. i don t have i mean, i don t have an estimate of how many and who s doing it. that would have to raise particular alarms, wouldn t it? it s one thing, small arms. but vehicle born anti-aircraft systems, that s pretty serious. it is pretty serious. we ve been taking it serious. we ve been monitoring the situation there as closely as we can. and we ve been nobody in the pentagon has been shy about talking about the continued threat posed by these separatist elements in ukraine or by those combined arms forces continuing to amass along the border. phil. has the pentagon or u.s. government increased its surveillance of the area along the border in the wake of this disast disaster? i would just say that we re monitoring events as closely as we can. and i really don t have any more to add than that. you don t want to say whether it s increased or not? we re monitoring events as closely as we can. i ll go back to the general s comments. were there any warnings given to the commercial airline companies or any civilian airline authorities about the existence or this level of training for those taking place there was a notice to airmen put out. i think you know that. that warns civilian aircraft to fly, to take care over the skies of ukraine and to fly at higher altitudes. not an expert on that entire process but there was an international notice to civilian air carriers about that. was that prompted by what the general said, the training of vehicle born you d have to talk to the faa and other agencies that handle that. i don t know what prompted it. i think it was obviously if you re going to issue a warning like that, it s based on concerns that you have about surface to air missile activity and capabilities. yeah. you said that you don t know what the intent was of whoever fired the missile. were there any indications there were other airlines, perhaps ukrainian military planes, in the sky at that time? also, is there any concern the president keeps saying put be wants to stop this, he can. are there any concerns perhaps this is a situation that is poised to spiral out control and perhaps russian doesn t have the control of the separatists and, if so, how are you preparing? on your first question, i don t know. this is ukrainian airspace. i remembfer to them to speak ab that. we wouldn t have that here. on your second question, i think the president s been very clear about what the responsibilities and obligation of president putin and moscow are right now. which is to deit s calculate the tension. respect the territorial integrity of ukraine. and cease support for the separatist activities. which i said at the outset, in some cases, is intensifying. even after yesterday s incidents? i don t know of any big delta between their support from yesterday to today. we haven t seen any sign that it s not that it s stopping. yes. admiral, there had been previous to yesterday s tragedy, there had been two or three, at least, ukrainian transport planes shot down. does your intelligence and your knowledge indicate the system that shot down the plane yesterday was a more powerful, more sophisticated system requiring more training, or was it similar to the system that was used to shoot down the ukrainian transport planes? it s again, we re investigating this right now. it s unclear exactly what brought down the other aircraft you re talking about. i mean, we know they were shot down, but those those incidents are still being looked into. i don t have any great visibility on what brought them down. but i d like to just kind of bring you back to the larger point here. that these aircraft are being shot down. and while it s unclear exactly who s pulling the trigger here, it s pretty clear it s doing nothing to deitescalate the tension inside ukraine and to bring to this crisis a peaceful resolution. now innocent people simply flying from one city to another have been killed. and brought into this. so let s not lose sight of the big picture here. it matters a lot less, you know, exactly what system it was and a lot more that it happened and it needs to stop. just a quick follow, do you believe whoever shot this plane down could have mistaken for a ukrainian military transport? ei m not going to get into te motivations, the intent, the reasoning that went into this. that s for the investigators to figure out. we simply don t have that level of detail at this point. ma am. normally friend or foe measures on systems like this? if it was an accident, would that reveal a dangerous lack of training on the part of whoever was using it? i don t know yet. i m not an expert on that system. i wouldn t begin to get up here and try to dissect it for you. investigators are going to pile through this. exactly who are these investigators? it will be it s an international investigation. does it include dod, does it include cia there s no plans right now for a dod representative on this. i won t speak for other agencies. i believe there will be some other entities from the federal government, individuals going over there to participate in it. i don t have the makeup of the team. it will be an international investigation. do you anticipate i have no expectation right now there will be a dod rep on this team. the president said he saw no role for the u.s. military in responding to this. but what ever happened to that list of requests for equipment that the ukrainians sent at the beginning of this? yeah, we continue to review requests for, or ukrainian requests for military assistance. some $33 million that the president has authorized of material has been getting to ukrainian, ukrainian armed forces and border services. the support continues to flow. we continue to take a look at their needs and addressing each in turn. last i remember, it was mres. is there any do you have a more complete list? yes, there s been more. the recent deliveries include radios, body armor, individual first aid kits, sleeping mats, uniform items. over the next few months, additional items will move through to include night vision goggles, thermal imageers, kevlar, some additional radios. there s been some other equipment given to ukraine s border guards. barbed wire, alarms systems. excavato excavators. trucks, generators. xun cations. communications. gear. part of a package of more than $33 million now that the president has approved and that stuff continues to flow. listening to a spokesman at the pentagon. want to bring in our jim sciutto. want to bring in our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. one of the things the spokesman from the pentagon said earlier, said it strained credulity they could do this without russian assistance, it was a fairly sophisticated device used. although they certainly don t foe who pushed the trigger. that was exactly the line i was thinking, anderson, the most significant from that press conference. follows on with what the president was saying earlier, this is not an accident, in the president s words, that they can t shoot the separatists couldn t shoot down the plane without sophisticated assistance. that assistance coming from russia. then on the floor of the security council, saying the systems are complicated, it s likely the separatists would have needed russian help, russian training. and now in addition to that, anderson, you have the u.s. intelligence community saying it s their working theory at this point that that missile system itself, the actual launcher, came across the border from russia. we have some audio we ve obtained, again, from ukrainian officials, seeming to show that that launcher came across the border. so that gives direct, as popposo just indirect, goes to the question you asked earlier, who bears the consequence to this. the president, goingrd too, you have to envision him marshalling support for stiffer sanctions against russia. yesterday, there had been some thought perhaps there was a system captured by pro-russian rebels from the ukrainian military. but as you just said, a senior defense official is at thing cnn their work theory abeimong the military is russian military supplied this buk missile system. it s a if question. this is what i was told. their working theory is this missile system came from a ukrainian base in crimea and that it was transferred from crimea to eastern ukraine, but via russian territory. if you look at a map, it would have to go from ukraine, through, you know, one route would be to take it through russia. that was their working theory. one of the comeing, many questions that hasn t been established yet. based on the statement from the pentagon, the president, our u.n. ambassador, that they would at least need training to operate this thing as well and that adds more responsibility. we re going to talk, when we come back, to a reporter on scene at the crash site for the latest on exactly what s happening there. we ll be right back. great. but parallel parking isn t one of them. you re either too far from the curb. or too close to other cars. it s just a matter of time until you rip some guy s bumper off. so, here are your choices: take the bus. or get liberty mutual insurance. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won t raise your rates due to your 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maps out and split up the territory. at the same time, it wasn t a sophisticated approach. they were still tying white cotton to stakes and basically walking through the fields and marking these spots. and the local population started emerging from their homes. people in the village down below sort of walking their cows trying to make sense of what had happened. many of them still in deep shock. there had been some reports of possible looting or removal of items or removal even of debris. did you see any of that? i myself didn t. i spoke to a colleague who had been sort of at the outskirts of the perimeter and saw a few guys going through suitcase that had fall en from the sky and talkin about whether to take a guide book. to say there s been extensive looting, at least during the morning period while i was there, is pretty difficult. you know, the perimeter there is being controlled. there s one rebel commander there who told me essentially by three groups. one is a set of fighters from nearby. the cosacks appear to be the wild card as always in this situation. so it s a little more difficult to say what s happening on their side of things. did yesterday you had talked that in some cases they were moving bodies, sort of trying to get all the victims together. does that continue today? did you see that? no, they haven t actually been touching the bodies at all from what i ve seen. they as far as we know have been asked through back channels. the prime minister of the donetsk people republic has been asked not to touch the bodies by malaysian and dutch authorities, suggesting people are still hoping there will be a chance for folks, international observers and investigators to enter the area. the concern of course is you have hundreds of bodies decaying in a field before anyone has a chance to get to them. it s summer here. it was raining actually earlier in the day. to put it simply, it s not ideal conditions. did it seem to you that most i mean, obviously, investigators are going to be looking at what kind of wreckage pieces of the wreckage and also even people themselves. are most of the people i m not sure how to ask this, are most of the people intact? i think it s about 50/50. i did a walk-through this morning and sort of in the daylight and counted roughly 50, 50 bodies, and i d say at least half of them are so mangled you simply couldn t identify them. some just kind of twisted corpses that look almost picasso-esque. but at the same time there are others that if handled properly, could be clearly identified. are there still we ve seen images of large pieces of wreckage. are most of the pieces very identifiable? most of the pieces of the debris? are there large chunks of the aircraft still intact? it seeps the debris split into sort of two clusters as it fell from the sky. the tail fin sort of further up the road. and some other debris scattered in that vicinity. and then the main crash site, which is closer to the village at the lower end of the field seems to be where the fuselage, the engines, landed. a lot of that has been burnt out. the flight hadn t taken off too long before it went down, so there was a lot of fuel still in the tank. you can really see that when you walk through the crash site. some of the alloy from the plane has sort of melted, resolidified. silver on the ground. in terms of do you have any information about black boxes or flight data recorders? there have been conflicting reports cy don t have anything that i could confirm. i ve heard the same conflicting reports that everyone has all day. and folks are continuing from both sides. to report at one moment that they have them and the next moment that they don t have them. so i think it s, again, a moment where it s worth waiting, not rushing to conclusions. and letting the situation play out a little bit in order to find out what s actually going on. ukrainian officials said they have been trying to get access to the site. in some cases, there work has been hampered. do you see any evidence officials from ukraine or accident investigators either doing work or trying to get access to a site? in the morning, there was nobody from ukraine or international groups there. i heard a group of observers visited the site. apparently there was an incident where some of the cosack guards either didn t understand exactly who the osce was or didn t appreciate their presence and caused some problems in terms of entry to the site. though rebel leaders have assured me that they will continue to and intend to allow international observers and journalists to work, they said their command is not to let locals on to the site. but beyond that, they don t plan to inpose any restrictions. i know you have also been talking to a number of pro-russian rebel leaders and spokespeople. what are they telling you, in terms of claims of responsibility, in terms of what they want to see happen? you know, it s an interesting question. it points to a larger problem. in terms of the long-term standing of eastern ukraine. most of the rebels here, i would say frankly across the board, deny responsibility for this. they claim it s a provocation conjured up by the ukrainian authorities in kiev. many of them claim they don t have is the equipment or that they don t have enough of the components of this missile system buk to actually hit this plane. when it comes to the fighters themselves, i think it s a moment where perception proves to be more powerful than reality. for these folks, even if evidence is presented by the western by western governments or by kiev, it s politicized in the eyes of the rebel fighters. these are men who have been fighting now for three months, if not a little bit more, and they ve given up their regular lives. there doesn t seem to be anyone saying that they re ready to rethink their position or to rethink their cause as a result of the malaysian airlines disaster. so the video posted by ukraine s interior ministry on its facebook page showing a buk system, according to the ukraine officials, heading towards russia, with one missile missing, things like that, that s all discounted by anybody in the rebels who you talked to? absolutely. to put it mildly, they don t trust a word that kiev says. i think anything that s released by the current authorities in kiev is seen in rebel eyes as fabricated, as intended to essentially to draw nato into ukraine. that s the understanding. the rebels think ukrainians want to establish more precedent to involve nato forces in ukraine in order to escalate western involvement and western attachment to the new government in kiev. is there anything else you want people to know about the crash site, about what is happening there right now? you know, i think one, for me, the important thing to note is there s still a lot of work to be done in order to secure the bodies. there s a lot of people talking about talking about the parts of the plane. talking about establishing evidence chains in order to have a proper investigation. and all of that is it s certainly important, but i think, especially for the for anyone who s walked through that scene, the bodies, the effects of the people on board, would receive as much attention as the more politicized debris are there capabilities there to properly handle the victims of this crash? are there morgue facilities? are there refrigeration, you know, mobile refrigeration trucks? can at this point, do they need all that to help? i think they do need all of that. i don t think they have it. the rebel quote/unquote minister alexander boridi mentioned today they don t have the proper equipment to store and secure and maintain the bodies so that s perhaps an area where the international community, observers could play a role, seems to be a point on which the separatist leadership is ready to cooperate. how easy is it to get to this site? i mean, is it because it s, you know, as we ve seen in past instan instances, it s very possible you may have family members wanting to come to the crash site as soon as possible. is how remote is it? how possible is it to actually get there? it s about 90 minutes from the regional capital donetsk where i m actually right now. it s off in a classic ukrainian countryside village, down sort of pothole-riddled roads, but the main issue i think for anyone traveling in this region right now is effectively the roads are controlled by the separatist groups. you have to pass through a series of checkpoints in order to move along the roads. i don t imagine they would be particular particularly happy or particularly kind to visiting foreigners. all journalists here have to receive accreditation through the separatist authorities. without that press card, you end up you end up held, held back from moving, moving around. it s not a at the same tie, there s still there s still fighting going on. there s still skirmishes. the city near to the crash site. so it s not an especially safe place to be traveling, although, again, i imagine on the issue of the bodies themselves and the folks impacted by the crash, the rebels seem a bit more willing to meet in the middle. noah schneider, i know, it s been an exhausting night for you. thank you. we ll continue to check in with noah in the coming days. up next, i ll talk to my panel about preserving what is a crime scene, multiple crime scenes, over a wide area, and the investigation of the crash. at every ford dealership, you ll find the works! it s a complete checkup of the services your vehicle needs. so prepare your car for any road trip by taking it to an expert ford technician. because no matter your destination good maintenance helps you save at the pump. get our multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more for $29.95 or less. get a complete vehicle checkup only at your ford dealer. joining know new is the former inspector general of the nstb. our military analyst. and in washington, peter golz, a specialist in aviation and international crisis management. also joining us is david soucie, cnn aviation analyst. appreciate all of you being with us. david, we were just hearing from noah schneider about the crash scene. from what he said, in terms of trying to, trying to investigate this, what challenges lay ahead? this really isn t just one crime scene, this is multiple crime scenes spread out over a great distance. yes, it is. documenting it is a challenge just when it s a singular accident but now you ve got several different things that have to be treated as accident sites. if bodies are falling separately, those have to be documented as well, what tract tra jektry the object that hit the ground went what will give clues what type of explosion it was, what type of speed. there s a lot of conclusions to be had. if those are moved, it can lead you down the wrong path. even the conditions of the victims are important in all of this to determine what happened. that s absolutely right and of course the method of bringing down the plane, the residue. at this point, the air crash investigators can tell you it was a you know, a missile brought down a plane and how the plane came down. but at this point, i would be inclined to say this is not an article 13 iko accident investigation and treat it as an international crime scene explain the difference, how do you mean? at that point, like we did in 9/11, the united states, after the four planes on 9/11, the ntsb was not in charge, the fbi was in charge, because it was an international criminal investigation. you have many more powers. you have the power literally to seize evidence. you can go in and get what you want and what you need. they need that right now. just looking at the crime scene and the report, great report, but it s out of control. rick, how do you see it? well, you know, they need to get the evidence and as david said i think it s important we find out how that weapon impacted that aircraft, to find out what it did and that might give us a better clue as to the condition of the weapon. we re hearing different reports about where that came from. was it a front-line russian piece of equipment? was it something taken from a ukrainian base? was it modified? this would be important. peter golz, just as, you know, as noah was talking about, the priority is obviously dealing with the victims of this crash, dealing with them in a sensitive way, dealing with them in a humane way, in a dignified way. and right now they don t have the capabilities on the ground really to do that. no, they don t. what has to happen is there has to be international action to form a recovery team that goes in immediately. that is promised protection by both the ukrainians, the separatists and the russians. and if that kind of protection s not promised and not delivered, then there s got to be sanctions immediately placed. i mean, the evidence going to be there. after twa flight 800, we tested the explosive residue and the explosive evidence of a missile detonating near aircraft skin. the investigation will know what the marker is on that case, in this accident. they will see the evidence. but the most important thing is to get a team in immediately to begin recovering the victims and treating them with some dignity and that really is in the hands of the russians, the ukrainians and the and in terms of the black boxes, the flight data recorders, they are important, but even david soucie, even if they have been removed and again, we have not been able to confirm it, and noah has not been able to confirm the status of them, there is still the wreckage themselves, from the victims themselves. there is more to be learned than what the boxes would tell us. and at the very most with the black boxs, whether there was a warning or not, whether they had been tried to be contacted, taken evasive action to say we re off track, there is someone who doesn t want us to here, do they start to turn the other way. that would be the black box information. but as far as we have talked about earlier with the impact of what type of effect the ballistic missile that hit the aircraft or exploded outside the aircraft, that is important information to know so you can decide whether it came from. and have you ever seen a crash/crime scene like this? yes, i have. in terms of the different actors in play. yes, pan am 103, september 11, klo-7, and with the residue on the bodies and the plane, but now you re in an international criminal man hunt. and in the midst of conflict. in the midst of conflict and how they re going to secure even and the workers to come in and retrieve the bodies, they need to have security. they don t want to be harmed in that process. mary schiavo, david soucie, rick francona, we appreciate you being with us. president obama saying there were hiv aids advocates on board, committed to finding a cure. sanjay gupta looks at the global impact of their loss now. reporter: the health community around the world in utter shock. the international aids society says a number of its members were on board malaysia airlines flight 17. they were heading to the aids 2014 conference in melbourne, australia, scheduled to start this sunday. typically attended by thousands from all over the world. and among them, leading hiv experts. their loss, likely to have an impact on research regarding diagnosing, treating and curing the disease. president bill clinton is one of the keynote speakers at the conference. he says it s awful, sickening, what has happened to so many people. they were doing so much good. we do this on a regular basis, have these international aids conferences. and i try to go to all of them, because i m always so inspired by what other people are doing and what we can learn from them. and so since i left office, it s been a kind of a regular part of my life, thinking about those people being knocked out of the sky. it s pretty tough. reporter: one of the victims, prominent dutch scientist, lang. i first met him in 2004 when he presided in bangkok. those who knew him say he was a hard core scientist with the heart of an activist, who worked tirelessly to get affordable aids drugs for hiv positive patients living in poor countries. one small example of his work. he was the one that argued if coca-cola could get refrigerated beverages to places all over africa, then we should be able to do the same with refrigerated hiv medications. it s going to be a huge impact, both on people who worked closely with him, people in his lab, and on the society as a whole. it s an incredible loss. we are all just bracing ourselves to arrive and find out who else may have been on that flight. it s just unbelievable. it s really real yet. reporter: the world health organization tells us glen thomas was on board that flight. he worked with us here at cnn during our coverage of the ebowla outbreak. he was planning his 50th birthday celebration. his life and so many others cut tragically short. and dr. sanjay gupta joins me live from the cnn center in atlanta. what more can you tell us about the victims and the work that they were doing? this international aids conference has been around for some time. nearly 30 years now. and this is the one sort of conference where researchers from all over the world were working sometimes in large labs and small labs, funded in different ways, came together to try and share the research, to really accelerate what was happening in the world of hiv/aids. jep lang, one of the first people to look at maternal to child transmission of hiv, do some of the early research in that area. and trying to figure out how to prevent it. we ve covered these types of stories. it s impossible to try you could not overestimate the impact of the sort of work that many of these people did who were lost on that flight. i think more people will come in to fill those ranks, but it s going to really cast a pallor over the society s meeting. this is a brain trust of people who have dedicated their lives to it and spent years on it. and knowledge like that. obviously beyond the human tragedy for their families, for their friends, for all who knew them. for this has an impact on globally on efforts fighting hiv/aids. we re talking about the last 30 years, when we have really started to research and focus on hiv/aids since the early 80s. and there are people who have spent their entire lives, interprofessional lives doing nothing but this. as you say, they re wealth of experience, knowledge, brain trust, that s that was their whole life. and so those people, again it s not to say there aren t other people who can fill those ranks, but some real leaders. jep lang, i interviewed him in 2004 in bangkok, talked to him about some of the work they were doing at that time. and he was the president of the whole organization. so gives an idea of the stature of this 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them for the last three months. four months, five months. and they re still here. they re still here. meanwhile, bipartisan efforts to shield mueller and his investigation are moving forward in the senate, interestingly enough after much delay. today republican chuck grassley, the chair of the powerful senate judiciary committee announced his panel will vote on a bill to protect mueller potentially as soon as tomorrow. that puts grassley on a direct collision course with the senate majority leader who says he will not advance the bill to a final vote. there s no indication that mueller is going to be fired. i don t think the president is going to do that. obviously a number of your colleagues fear it enough to say it should be in there. i m the one who decides what we take to the floor. that s my responsibility as the majority leader. we ll not be having this on the floor of the senate. it s possible mcconnell doesn t read the new york times which reported on two separate occasions when the president has already tried to order pluler fired. in one case backing down only after his own white house counsel threatened to quit over it if he went through with it. tonight concerns about mueller being fired are urgent enough apparently a police commander in pittsburgh just ordered detectives to bring riot gear to work in case people take to the streets. that s happening in america. on capitol hill, a handful of republicans signed on to a house version of the mueller protection bill. it is worth noting that of the six gop members we know, half have already announced they re retiring from congress. some of their colleagues are taking what could be considered the absolute opposite approach. today in a letter to the attorney general and other senior officials, 11 house republicans called on the justice department to prosecute a long list of the president s political foes including james comey, hillary clinton and former attorney general loretta lynch. we ve seen had kind of extraordinary breach of american political norms from the president himself but never before from members of u.s. congress. their move was hailed by the president s associates on trump tv. this is a welcome change here in washington. it looks like members of congress are trying to finally bring to the american people the justice which they deserve. hopefully the justice department will look into jim comey lying under oath in front of congress. i don t understand why you ve got a person gone for almost a year that has not been followed up with or prosecuted for that potential crime. democratic senator cory booker a member of the senate judiciary committee and one of the sponsors of the bill to protect mueller good enough to join us live. let me start on that. what do you make of members of congress writing a letter calling for members of the fbi, the justice department and political foes of the president to be prosecuted? this is to me really a bad sign in our democracy. i think it starred in the last presidential election where you hear a whole convention center chanting lock her up, which to me is things that dictators do that autocrats do is go after their little enemies not through the mechanisms of democracy but threat nick to throw them in jail and arrest them. this is a very dangerous sign. it is very anti-democratic that people want to try to be pushing to lock up their political opponents. so you re on the judiciary committee. explain to me what the state of play is with this piece of legislation. back in june, lindsey graham and started talking about hey, this is a problem not just in this moment in history, this moment in time. but for the long-term. if you have a president under investigation or has principal members of their team indicted, that that president should have a common sense check and balance on their ability to fire a special counsel. it just makes sense that you should not have that you should have checks and balances that you shouldn t have a president can be above the law or that could obstruct justice. so this is just a very common sense pragmatic idea. lindsay and i started working on it, thom tillis and chris coons came up with their version. we ve married the versions. i m excited that chuck grassley understands that this is a bill of merit not only for now but in the ages and not only held hearings on it i mope will mark this bill up and vote it out of committee. what do you think has changed? it seemed there was a lot of interest last summer, we may have had you on to talk about it, that interest waned. it seemed stalled. if you had asked me to bet on whether it would get a vote on committee, i would have said no. what s changed? a lot of folks of good conscience saying we ve seen two separate occasions where we re hearing reports the president was going to move to fire mueller. we ve seen consistent with his behavior that it can be impulsive, it can be unpredictable. i think we need this back stop for our democracy as opposed to lurching us into a constitutional crisis. sober minds see this as not at indictment of the president but as a sign of the times and something we re worried about and a responsible thing for us to do as stewards of the republic, as stewards of our democracy. and look, i would be i want to state it plain, clearly, there are republicans now that are worried that this eventuality might happen. i think that s why we re getting good people, good heart, good nature stepping up to say let s do some things to create an insurance policy against a constitutional crisis. isn t.mitch mcconnell just going to put this bill where he stored the merrick garland flom nation in his office? i think that is a well earned skepticism. but this is something that i think is gaining momentum. i think that mitch mcconnell is right it, his rights to do what he s doing right now but he s within his rights to change his mind. as we get more bipartisan support, as more activism happens around the country and if trump continues with the kind cuff bluster we ve been seeing, here s a president that has been undermining the special counsel, attacking his integrity, undermining the investigation. i think at some point people have to choose from a tribalism party politics between that and sort of a faithfulness to their country and our institutions. i m hoping that mitch mcconnell will come around. but right now, we re step by step. we wrote a bill. we got the bill hearings. we got the bill now ready to go into committee. every step of the way as you said, people didn t think we could make it the next step. i have a feeling we might get this to the floor. do you think the president s a criminal. i m one of those folks that says let s go where the evidence leads. and right now, we have a special counsel that is doing a thorough investigation. let s not get ahead of our skis. let s make sure we support the special counsel s investigation. if the president, like he says he has nothing to worry about, he should back off on the rhetoric and the things he s doing to undermine the investigation and let it take its course. let s draw our conclusions from the evidence gath perpendicular i think it s politically peril oust way we are throwing things around and getting ahead of this investigation. i think we need to let this prosecutor, let the special counsel rather do their job and draw conclusions after the evidence comes forward. is that a reference to talk of impeachment when you say politically perilous. yeah, i think that we undermine our position as democrats if we are reaching out now for impeachment which is just going to whip up more of the political divisions, the political debates. i ll take criticism for that but it s okay. we need sober minds, fact-basesed conclusioned drawn from evidence presented. this, if we protect are the special counsel especially, this investigation is going to come to a conclusion. there are going to be facts and we can base our actions based upon those fantastics. senator cory booker, you for making time tonight. for more on threats the jut department s independence, i m joined by two former federal prosecutors, jennifer rogers who worked in the same attorney s office investigating michael cohen and harry lipman who worked at the doj. let me start with you. the president very pointedly didn t say no, i m not going to fire them. they re five and i m innocent. he could have said that. he could have but he likes to keep us guessing, of course. if he flat out said i m going to fire him, then maybe they hurry up and pass this bill and that puts impediments in his way. or if he said i m not going to do it. what he said was this coy like, you keep saying this and they re still there. he said they re going to do their job. the white house said that before. sarah sanders said that before and now she s backing off that which is getting some people nervous. harry, i want to ask about some of the there s all these machinations happening as we watch this bear down. one of them is that adam schiff is introducing a pardon bill, legislation to prevent abuse of presidential pardons which understand the impulse particularly as there is some evidence that perhaps the president might be dangling them or some fear he might be dangling in front of people that could incriminate them. is that even constitutional? doa. the pardon power is plenary. it s a very interesting theory by the way that the dangling of a pardon might constitute obstruction because the sort of secret i ll pardon you, just keep quiet now, wouldn t be subject to the one check we have on pardons which is the political collect that they re in in plain air. but there s the pardon power, more than even the discharge power which at issue in the booker bill, is completely within the president s control subject only to as has happened here arguably, improper purpose and it being the possibility of obstruction. ditto, by the way, on the booker bill. there are going to be constitutional arguments on either side. notwithstanding the precedent that the senators rely on. and i actually think if it passes, this will au kind of play out at the district court level in the first instance and whether the district court will enjoin the bill or not until it goes up because if the district court says let s keep it as it is, that law is in place, that will be four, five, six months till the supreme court decides that s four, five, six months for mueller to make a lot of hay. that s a very good point sort of concrete terms, is there even a legislative it statutory solution to this. some legal scholars argue alan dershowitz and a lot of them on right argue the president has a constitutional power under article two to fire anyone in the executive branch essentially so you can t undermine that power by statute or any other reason. that will be the battle if this gets passed. they ll be duking it out in court. another piece of legislation this legal gim protect. eric schneiderman wrote a letter to new york lawmakers urging state lawmakers to close new york s double jeopardy loophole to. to prevent the president from avoiding double jeopardy. it only applies as double jeopardy would once somebody has stood trial. now, sneiderma knows better. jennifer probably knows better being from from new york. my sense of it is, it comes into play only when somebody is first put in jeopardy in the federal system. but if that happens, it would apply to many of the crimes the vet financial crimes that it looks as if cohen, manafort and others are going to have to stand try for. so it attach as soon as someone pleads guilty or a jury is sworn in a trial. so flynn. you re saying is double jeopardy does. correct. so flynn, he s already pled, gates has already pled. for them if they re pardoned by the president, then the new york double jeopardy statute would the prohibit sneiderma or any other new york prosecutor from bringing charges against them. this would rectify that in view of sneiderma. it would. new york is along with about half the states with a stricter double jeopardy policy than is strictly necessary. there s no constitutional reason they can t pass this and scale back that extra protection. it s interesting to watch everyone try to figure out how to sort of shore up all this. then there s the civil suits happening. one thing that happened today karen mcdougal was released from her settlement with ami, american media inc .basically saying you can tell your story. do you see that as having effect on everything happening in the lane of michael cohen and robert mueller, harry. totally. it s quite a story really. everyone has been focused to date on mueller. understandably. he s got the big guns. he can really bring the biggest charges against trump. in the meantime, trump is fighting and losing on these different fronts in individual courts. where he has to, in fact, stand in front of the law and the law buys back and says look, i don t care if you re the president. so far, judge wood, judge odoro and i think mcdougal, the national enquirer read the writing on the wall. what we had seen as sort of nuisance suits in fact are proving very potent especially if cohen is right, by the way. that s a fact question, that the stormy suit actually was instrumental in the search warrants being served on cohen. and karen mcdougal s lawyer as i realized is going to be on rachel maddow. next, after the bizarre 72 hours of back and forth whether the white house is enacting russian sanctions the president halted his departure from the president conference with the prime minister minister of japan to weigh in on public feud. that story in two minutes. at ameriprise financial, we can t predict what tomorrow will bring. but our comprehensive approach to financial planning can help make sure you re prepared for what s expected and even what s not. and that kind of financial confidence can help you sleep 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claim is as he often does anytime this comes up, no collusion. at the same time, the president appears to be blocking his own administration s efforts to sanction russia. over the weekend, the white house informed surrogates it would impose specific additional sanctions against russia in direct response to moscow s support for bashar al assad in the wake of the syrian government s chemical weapons attack on syrians as the u.s. alleges they did. u.s. ambassador to the united nations nikki haley announced the sanctions on tv. he grew angry and yelled at the television. the white house insys there had were no new sanctions claiming she had just been confused. tonight at a press conference weapons japanese frirpt shinzo abe, trump offered a cryptic response when asked about the sanctions. sanctions as soon as they very much deserve it. we have that is a question. there s been nobody tougher on russia than president donald trump. joining me now someone all over the stoerks political analyst phillip rucker, white house bureau chief for the washington post. lots of press back and forth about the peschell dynamics. nikki says there already sanctions. then they get withdrawn. kudlow says she got ahead of her skis. nikki haley says i don t get confused. there was a policy that got reversed, right? that s right, chris. as with a lot of things in this administration, the reason for the reversal is the president himself. there was an agreed upon preliminary plan developed last week to impose these sanctions as an economic component of the broader campaign in retaliation for the syrian chemical gas attacks. there were the military strikes on friday. there were to be these economic sanctions against russia this monday. and sometime over the weekend, the president decided to hold back on the sanctions, not to impose and not to authorize them in part because he felt like russia had not retaliated against the united states for that military strike on friday. so he didn t want to antagonize russia too much. something didn t happen in the translation there. it s unclear based on my reporting exactly when the president changed his mind whether he did so before ambassador haley went on tv sunday or soon after. but the white house did not announce that change till monday and the agreed upon message was to blame her. this is very similar to another incident you reported in the west about his anger at the scope of russian diplomatic expulsions or spy expensions according to u.s. government. there were i think 60 named and you said the president was furious his administration has being portrayed as taking by far the toughest stance on russia. he got angry whether he learned france and britain were kicking out four, the u.s. was kicking out 60 and yelling at his staff about it. that s right. president trump was willing to expel those russian diplomats a few weeks ago but did not want to be seen as taking the lead as having the united states be at the forefront of this. he felt like this was a problem for europe. he wanted the european allies to be more aggressive with russia. he was willing to sort of go along. so his advisers said look, if the u.s. expels 60 diplomats, europe will expel 60. for some reason, trump didn t realize they meant europe collectively. there was a global effort, all of these countries contributed a certain number of diplomats they would be expelling from their countries. trump got furious when he saw the side by side comparisons between the u.s. at 60, france and germany at four each. that irritated him and he was cursing at his team. what is going on? the president is at war and at odds with his own administration over russia policy. he hates when they re aggressive. he gets overruled or outplayed or they have to keep it hidden from him and spring it on him. the whole thing steams dysfunctional and unhealthy. what s going on? he s ratcheted up the aggression with russia a little bit. certainly the donald trump of 2017 probably would not have agreed to expel any russian diplomats, would not have agreed to close the consulate in the seattle. he says he s the toughest ever. that doesn t pan out. it s clear when you report inside this administration that is almost everyone to a t in the administration those in the cabinet, those on the national security council are in agreement with a very aggressive and adversarial posture with russia. it s the president time and again they have to convince to come along and authorize these moves. phil, thanks for being with me tonight. thank you. president trump today crowed about the man he nominated to be secretary of state cia director mike pompeo we now know traveled to north korea over easter weekend to meet kim jong-un directly even though he s not been confirmed by the senate. i think mike pompeo is extraordinary. sfefs number one at west point, top the an harvard. he s a great gentleman. i think he ll go down as truly a great secretary of state. by the way, he just left north korea. had a great meeting with kim jong-un and got along with him really well, really great. joining me now is the top democrat in the senate foreign reeses complete senator robert menendez df new jersey who said today he would vote no on the pompeo come nation. let me start with your reasons for coming to that conclusion. i don t think director pompeo will be someone who be a strong advocate for diplomacy as the first line of defense. i think he rounds out what is becoming the president s war cabinet. i m concerned about his past statements about regime change. both in north korea and iran just to mention a few. and i m concerned about his record on what he has said about people of the muslim faith, about the lgbtq community, and others, and democracy and human rights around the world which the united states promotes starts here at home. those are many of the reasons why i don t believe that he will work to stop the president s worst instincts. are you supportive of efforts to engage in direct talks with north korea like pompeo going there and possibly setting up a head to head summit with the president? well, you know, ultimately, i worry about the president having a meeting without the deep preparation that has to take place. primarily by our state department and our defense people to maybe have a shot at having a good meeting. you know what kim yong u.n. has done here is set the terms and the time that he decided that he ll engage with us. he has received international recognition by the president himself agreeing to meet with him and being legitimized in that way. he has ultimately said that he ll talking about denuclearization but he s done that previouset rations. never has it been followed through on. lastly it looks like he will get benefit from china in enhanced economic interaction for easing the tension. he s in a good place. i worry that the president doesn t understand what is necessary and the underpinnings necessary toes achieve the possibility of the goals of a denewark clearrized korean peninsula. there s a lot of back and forth in the last 24 hours about russia and russian sanctions particularly with nikkiy announcing is new chances. people in the administration saying she got ahead of the curve and her saying i did not. do you understand what s going on with there administration s russia policy? no, i don t understand the administration s russia policy except this. that president trump can declare the court order of a judge to conduct a search warrant on his former or on his attorney an attack against our country but cannot say anything about vladimir putin s attack against our country in the presidential elections and attacks that are still going on in our election process as we speak for the 2018 elections. it s mind boggling and this is why i could understand where ambassador heyy thought they were going in a different direction because the congress overwhelming passed and the president he had to sign sanctions against russia that are mandatory, not discretionary and no waivers for them. mandatory that he has yet to pass. so ultimately, one has to wonder, what is it that the president has such a reluctance to do as it relates to russia when they ve attacked us in what would clearly be in any other iteration an attack on our country and when they not only have invaded ukraine, committed a chemical attack against an individual on foreign soil, are engaged in other democracies throughout europe and in mexico as we speak and so many others. so it s just mind boggling to try to understand that what the president is all about whether he it comes to russia. finally, the president ordered strikes on three different facilities that allegedly were involved in the production of chemical weapons controlled by the regime in syria. did you support those? do you support them and are you clear what the legal rationale is for those strikes? i think any sustained engagement in syria outside of isil needs the authorization of congress, number one. number two, wlags assad did is barbaric. but we saw a strike a year ago, we see a strike now. at the end of the day, i don t know if this was carefully choreographed because you have a strike against three facilities. the russians don t activate their defense missiles against us. the syrians shoot their missiles after our missiles land. you wonder, wait a minute, was this a choreographed kabuki show? ia really is missing here is a strategy to end the disaster that is syria. let me make sure i understand that. are you suggesting that the white house used some back channelton actively coordinate with russia or the assad regime ahead of time before the strikes? well, i certainly have to wonder. the russians have a very sophisticated defense system they did not activate. the syrians shot missiles after our missiles landed. and the russians were not hit at all in any of those chemical weapons sites. it s too many questions that raise the concerns as did weise act and show our indignation but was it choreographed or at least were the russians told stay out of these seconds and by the way, don t challenge us. and if you don t challenge us, then everything will go as planned. look, the bottom line is, what s crying out here in syria is a strategy a strategy that isolates russia and iran through the gulf partners through other countries in the world for what they re doing in syria that ends the humanitarian catastrophe that gives assistance to the syrians who are fleeing and brings the process into a u.n. brokered system, not the process where russia, turkey and iran are deciding syria s future and a good part of the middle east. the senator menendez thanks for being with me. next why is donald trump so worried about the michael cohen investigation? wlael look at what trump s fixer has done for trump after this break. this is a jungle gym. and a baseball diamond. .a mythical castle. and a grand banquet hall. this is not 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you learn. one of the things that was stunning to us and we went back to the beginning of michael cohen s career as a lawyer, is that he kept associating with people who were investigated, disbarred, committed of crimes, he himself was not so far as we can he s never been investigated till now. but he has a remarkable track record going back to people that he worked with in the taxi medallion industry, people that he worked with where he set up medical offices and people were later charged with insurance fraud. and normally one wouldn t judge people by their associates but there is a stunning and consistent history and, of course, he is the president s lawyer, and therefore, is deserving of even more scrutiny. this is a guy who has gone through a number of businesses that i think it s fair to say like the taxi medallion business is like a sketchy business. the taxi medallion business, one of the things it s a license to drive a cab. until uber it was worth so much money. gold mine. at its peak worth $1 million. even way back in the early towels, he said had he 200 of them. that s a lot of money. and that s what gave him the ability to so far as we know, to start buying properties in trump tower. he went from these very sort of poor places in new york city where the businesses are falling apart and shuttered and people don t have locks on their doors to fifth avenue, park avenue in a very short length of time. this is the thing. you get a picture today on twitter of one of his law offices and a taxi garage basically, in queengs essentially. at a certain point the way he runs into trouble, he starts buying up a lot of trump port. is that right? this is what happens. we don t know how they met. but the first time they were ever publicly linked was there was a story in the new york post. it was an unusual story. a weird story. about some guy michael cohen him and his family and his business partners buying up trump properties all over the place. soon after that, he goes to work for trump as executive vice president. this is a guy who had an office in a garage not too many years before that. and he s buying he and his family are buying a lot of property in dollar value of condos in trump properties. this is the other thing about michael cohen. he s worked in these industries, taxi medallions, medical insurance. diamonds, real estate. i mean, we ll take real estate in particular. the federal government thinks that real estate is a way for people to lauder money. this is the stated policy of the u.s. treasury is that some 30% of real estate transactions merit skrutfully because of possible money laundering. > he becomes the role he plays for donald trump is not lawyer. that s key. what is his role? it s important to understand this. donald trump had lawyers who did litigation and. tons from them, armies of them. legal briefs and did all these things for him. what michael cohen did is he made deals. one of the things in our podcast is we have tape of him announcing a very early deal or sort of a middle of his term in trump world with georgia. he is somebody whose office was in a taxi garage now standing next to the president of georgia announcing a big deal. this deal later collapses amid charges of money laundering and corruption and bank fraud. again you have this pattern wherever mike cohen goes these charges are around him. now, he is not charged. and i should say january 2017 he resigns from the trump work to become the personal attorney for the president which is interesting. i think we ll see that very relevant to the litigation an keeps going. andrea bernstein, thank you. thank you so much. still to come, the president s popularity consistently hovers in the same range. but there are new ominous signs for republicans the blue wave is growing. plus, the republican candidate for senate fresh out of prison. tonight s thing 1, thing 2 starts right after this. but we make more than our name suggests. we re an organic tea company. a 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this election. there its no, no sugarcoating that. so, you know a big wave coming. some members have to get off the beach. with me, michelle grober, josh ernest, christina greer, and political scientist. so, there is a weird, there is something happening i think is interesting at this point. seven months out. if you look at the generic ballot. the lead the democrats had looks to have shrunk. the president s approval rating bumping in the 40s. not the worst. not like post charlottesville. all the stuff on polling looks like, bad but not catastrophic for republicans. maybe improving a little. if you look at fund-raising, political reports, special elections, the behavior of people like paul ryan, it looks like a disaster. candidate recruitment is something that would figure highly there. seeing quality and number of candidates the democrats have been able to recruit. something hard to gauge now. based on sheer numbers. some of the stories out there. su something that will reap the benefits of come november. which is accurate? i think democrats are in a good position heading into november. not something, democrats should be taking for granted. not a situation where democrats should repeat the mistakes of the past which is to say should not just be counting on getting by running anti-donald trump campaign. at every democratic canned date candidate will have to make proactive argument what they re for and what they re hopefully my hope its that voters and democrats will respond. so much energy we see, marches are motivated by the desire of protesting being against something. at some point we have, have to harn er harness the energy in the direction of being in favor of something. not that i necessarily disagree with it. i think that is where the energy comes from. i don t worry about that as much. with each of the special elections you have seen, in many cases, the candidates have made an affirmative pitch to voters. they almost don t have to talk about donald trump, it is implicit. like, connor lamb didn t talk much about donald trump. heading on friday to arizona to write about the special election in congressional district 8. where again, you know you have all the people motivated by anti-trump animus. doesn t figure in. let me bracket that. the district opened up if i am not mistaken by the member of republican house leadership who asked several female staff members. to be a surrogate, carry his children. have to resign for that. another thing. here is also the problem. we have to get through primaries first. always encouraging students. must vote. must vote. they turn around to me, for whom? why? take new york for instance. our primary for, you know congress is in june. there are so many people who aren t paying attention. the person who actually goes on the ballot, to go against a republican in november, may be some one that, you know in some cases isn t that attractive to a large percentage of voters. and that s also part of the frustrating piece that, that i find with younger voters that we keep saying, come in. come in. and, all the action happened in june. they may miss it actually. interesting too. because, republicans say this all the time. particularly about connor lamb. good luck getting connor lamb out of the primary? the other part of this that matters is well, to go back to what i was saying before. they have to be in position they re voting for something. this its what i thought connor lamb did a good job of. republicans tried to spin the situation. connor lamb was playing republican light. that s not what connor lamb did. he was very affirmative. he made a point of clarifying his position on gun control to suggest he was in support of background checks. supportive of the labor movement. took a big risk, talked about the need to confront climate change. he is somebody on affirmative platform. aspiring candidate. he didn t spend all of his time running against donald trump. i think we also have to realize, district by district. unfortunately, the democrats are sometimes using blanket strategy. we talked about this. when there are people of color, women of color especially in a particular district. we can t keep chasing this x percent of white men who left during the reagan era to get them back into the party. love the people who actually turn out, who registered democrats who have a proven track record in the past, three, four elections that will come out in a primary especially in a general, because they re already mote va motivated. we are going to have a lot of women. i am not usually an optimistic woman. in a state of gloom and deep spare. if you look at the people running, right. you have so many, you have record numbers of women. record numbers of women of color. right. you do have, i think, to some extent, a slate of candidates that reflects the democratic base. the slate of candidates willing to step up and run in places where often kramt cardemocrats have a candidate at all. they re able to pour all their heart and some. force republicans. paul ryan, this district. don t think it looks that good for democrats. republicans are having to pour $1 million into it. paul ryan is hosting a fund raiser. yeah. in arizona. they didn t even used to run anybody in this district. they re draining resources. people are running in the districts. i m not confident the democratic party its putting resources behind the candidates to help them in the particular districts. we saw what happened when independent expenditure put in $1 million in the doug jones roy moore. 98% of black women turning out. $23 million to chase down white men sort of on the fence. i think we need institutional structure to financially support of the people. that s what is making it happ happen. indivisible. seeing transmitted in the different races. bear down. look at who is manning phone ban banks. working family parties across the country. two factors we should, cover here. you alluded to it. money. republicans are actually going to outspend democarts this time around. for all the advantages around the national narrative. we do not have the advantage when it comes to money. a republican advantage. where there is a democratic advantage. not enjoyed by the minority party, is we are going to be in a message vierenvironment.
News coverage is provided. eric: let s go to chicago. andrew, how do we know this claim is true as giuliani claims someone fiddled with the tape. i don t think anyone knows whether the tape has been fiddled with. i wouldn t put anything past him. even if these tapes prove to be admissible, they still have major problems. the tapes aren t complete. it s apparently a tape of a tape. and you have big segments of the tape that can t be heard. remember there is still nothing illegal that was discussed in those tapes. i realize why everybody likes it. we have the president of the united states talking about a payoff to a playboy model that never took place. it appears mr. trump says something so exclusive with his client. that s a breach. then releasing this information to cnn to try to make the president look bad. it doesn t matter if the president waived the i have with respect to these tapes or conversations. you can t put these tapes out to people to try to embarrass your client. if he s able to avoid criminal prosecution, there is no question he s going to lose his license and he should lose it. can he face jail time for this? what do you think is going to happen? it s clearly legal. but with all the shady dealing from wire fraud issues, the medallion issues with respect to taxis, he s in a world of trouble. that s why he s desperate to cut a deal with the special prosecutor he would tell his own client down the river, donald trump. it it s conscionable. reporter: there is new reaction to president trump s refusal to declassify key parts of the fisa warrants on carter page. the president has the letter from us. i think this lawyers aring at this to see if they can declassify it sooner rather than later. but the sooner this comes out the better off we have. what s left, the american people need to know what s in it. what information did the fbi use to get a warrant to surveil a member of the trump campaign? was it legitimate evidence or part of the steele dossier turned by the democrats. the justice department released document related to the surveillance application. most of of the documents were redacted. particularly the section where they say why they thought carter page was a russian agent. democrats argued the redacted sections show there was much more tight than that. but this morning devin nunes who chairs the house intelligence committee pushed back on that argument. the reality is that s not the case. we have had several of our members who have been painstakingly going through it piece by piece, and we are quite confidence once the american people see the 20 pages, at least those reporting on this issue, they will be shocked by what is in that fisa application. reporter: for months nunes argued that the fbi acted inappropriately in the fisa warrant application because they relied on the dossier. he says the pages they are asking to have unredacted show they kid that they did that. eric: the economy grew by 4.1% in the second quarter. treasury secretary steve mnuchin telling fox news sunday that he s confident the economy will continue to grow. we can only project a couple years in the future. i don t think this is a one or two-year phenomenon. i think we are in a period of four or five years of sustained 3% growth at least. eric: gillian turner is live in washington with more. reporter: the administration is take that message of prosperity to the news media with the president leading the charge. you sense out on the street talking to business leaders that the best is yet to come. these numbers tell the tale, but the enthusiasm and confidence across this country among business leaders and businesses large and small tell the same story and more. reporter: the president reinforcing the spirit of optimism saying the best result coming out of the gdp report is the trade deficit has been reduced by $52 billion. the big picture he says, growth is here to stay. this despite warnings from some economists that current growth trend are not sustainable. but the secretary of the treasury is so confident he believes it s irresponsible for the treasury to raise rates. the market has been targeting 2% unnation. we have to have slightly higher interest rates. reporter: he says he expects 3% growth to continue for three or four or five years into the future. and he s not too worried about american tech giants taking a tumble. i m not concerned about this. the tech stocks have had an incredible run. reporter: the great debate in washington is how all this impacts the mid-terms. the president told sean hannity the good news is bound to spell victory for republicans. reporter: president trump is going on the campaign trail to stump for gop candidates. our next guest says it all depend on his message. firefighters in california, battling wildfires and sweltering heat. if you don t feel safe, trust that intuition and gut feeling and leave ahead of time. i woke up in memphis and told. 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reporter: it s another tough day in california. but let s start with the good news from here in the san bernardino mountains above palm springs. the cranston fire has been a tough one for firefighters. but the good news is they have 29% contained. that s a good figure. it scorched about 13,000 acres. but no loss of life here. that s the good news coming out of this part of california. but we go further north. very bad news at the carr fire centered around the city of redding in northern california. that scorched some 130 square miles. a huge area. it is only 5% contained. it destroyed 536 structures so far. 300 of those, according to a count by the associated press, that number is almost certain to rise. 5,000 more structures including a lot of homes are threatened, and five people are reported killed. two firefighters, officially confirmed to have died in that fire. three other people, a woman and her two great grandchildren reported by the family to have burned to death in that fire. and veteran firefighters fighting the flames up there in redding say they have never seen anything quite like this fire. listen here. the fire ran with such force, there were 70-plus-mile-per-hour wind, tornado-like winds going through there. you are seeing trees uprooted. i m sure many of you have the photo and videos of that. you see roofs ripped off house. the fire didn t do that, the wind did it. reporter: also up in northern california in the famed winery of napa valley, a fire is burning. but firefighters seem to be getting a grip on it. pr fires in yosemite and mendocino county, california. 10,000 firefighters are battling large wildfires in the state. the problem when you have these triple digit temperatures as well is exhaustion with so many firefighters stretched so thin. there are many tough days ahead for the california firefighters right now, eric. that is an army fighting an enemy it s devastating, tragic and heartbreaking. alicia: we go to deputy chief scott mcclain, the public information for for cal fire. he joins us by phone. my first question for you, i don t know if you heard jonathan hunts reporting. he s talking about 10,000 firefighters. how are you doing on resources. do you have what you need? we are at 17 significant fires with 12,000 firefighters committed in the state of california. these fires burned over 200,000 acres to date. and as far as structure destruction. overall in the state 20,000 homes are still threatened. we are getting equipment from out of state. self states sent resources to us. we just got news that nationally we ll be getting 150 fire engines heading our way this coming week. the national guard has engaged. we have use of their aircraft as well as ground troops divide into hand crews. they already had the training. so we are getting a lot of resources from a lot of different directions. how are you deciding to send these resources when you have so many large fires? it depend on the threat. the risk versus ask gain. we want to make sure we protect folks and make sure they can get out of harm s way. and less thought would go into those wide reaching stances without any population density. but at the same time we need to protect our watersheds in the state of california. that affects never the state. alicia: you are talking about getting people out of harm s way. the last number i saw was evacuations were 40,000 people in the redding area. where do you put everyone? i understand some of the evacuation centers are getting filled up. 40,000 individual have been evacuated. so folks have the evacuation centers to go to. on this particular fire they filled up fast which i have not seen before. folks usually will head south or north to family, friend and hotels. alicia: there was a great grandmother and her two grade grandchildren in the redding area caught up in a flash fire. can you explain what that is? this took place late friday. and two of our firefighters were killed in the same event. the fire developed so rapidly due to weather conditions that it just was huge fire wall coming into the west redding area extremely quickly enveloping everything in its past. we have video of fire tornado taking place in that area which explains what happened because of the erratic weather. there was no stopping it. alicia: we want to show folks out there something a little more in a positive note. but a reminder of the humans behind this fighting this. we have a tweet you guys put up thanking the highway patrol that saved a deer. they said they were city folks but that little deer is kissing that officer there. it s a great human interest story. pets that had to be abandoned are being picked up by animal mall grouped in the area. alicia: thank you very much. and good luck doesn t even cut it for everything you are doing. thank you so much. deputy chief scott mclean, cal fire. eric: they are to be commended for the work they are doing. the hot weather and the drought make it harder for the firefighters to put out the devastating fires. fire weather watches now in effect up and down the whole state and throughout the west. adam klotz with the locker-term forecast. there is any relief in sight? adam: this weather has been fueling some of the fires or adding to it. unfortunately that s continuing for this sunday and monday. the temperatures are not too bad. but they have been dealing with extreme heat and dry conditions, not just in california, but throughout the entire west. some of that extreme heat targeting today. these are sunday highs getting down into arizona and nevada. look at some of these temperatures up and down california. these are your daytime highs. up to close to 110 degrees will be the high today. incredibly dry conditions. it doesn t improve a lot the next couple days. the highs in triple digits. not a big difference in the next couple days as far as the heat goes. that s why we continue to see heat advisories stretching from southern california up into the pacific northwest. with that you get the elevated fire danger. everything you are looking at in the highlighted ping area, that means the wind are stronger and the humidity is low. it s dry, it can burn. we have it up in areas of washington. but it s not just a problem into portions of california. we are look at spots stretching back down into colorado and back over toward utah, nevada, that have also been seeing fires and red flag warnings. the wind are high and the conditions are dry. these are fires, 7 fires of 100 acres or greater stretching across the west. the thing that would help all of this out. obviously it would be a little bit of rain. you are seeing all the activity unfortunately on the western side of the country. rain sure through the midwest up and count east coast the next couple days. where we need it out west, unfortunately in the immediate future we won t be seeing much relief here. eric: the u.s. imposes sanctions over a detained american pastor. be right back. with moderate to severe crohn s disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? 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we can t kick them out of nato. it s a very complicated system, but certainly we can work together with like-minded allies to put pressure on turkey. germany, france, netherlands, other members can begin the process. it seems like he s a strong man doing whatever he wants. for tat. absolutely appeared a couple things happening now that are quite helpful. one is turkey s economy is a little rocky. if we can exert some pressure to know which is under consideration within the u.s. senate to try to make sure turkey doesn t get any extra financing from the imf or to make sure that we are watching the banking system and not aiding and abetting anybody come about actors have been turkey to try to contain in that way would be a helpful thing to consider at this stage. it s extremely important. the man lived in turkey for 23 years. the pastor has a small congregation. they have created within the state run media within turkey. is originally from north carolina church or terrorism. under house arrest for 21 months. he faces 35 years in jail if ultimately convict it. here is vice president pence calling for his release. we welcomed the news this week. turkey made the decision to transfer pastor brents and tahoma rice and i actually spoke to pastor branson and his wife shortly after they arrived. they should be allowed to return to his family, to his home, to his church and his nation and the united states of america. to pressure the turkish government, how do you think this will play out? will you see him back here on u.s. soil without extraditing the line in pennsylvania. as often happens sometimes when you have disputes, generally you would want to resolve an issue like this on the quiet. work out some sort of diplomatic thing between on current washington to secure the release. unfortunately, in erdogan has made this into a giant political issues so he s complicated the problem. erdogan is such an egotistical man come egotistical man cometh sees himself as essentially the pasha of the ottoman empire in many ways in terms of his foreign affairs action and imprisoning people. we are talking about school teachers in the civil service. so for him to stand down is a huge deficit. we are in a real conundrum here. it is wonderful that might tend to see where he s doing. there s consideration within the u.s. senate to do something about it. why are we selling the most sophisticated fighter jets, df 35 to turkey when he did a deal for the most sophisticated antimissile battery that the russians have. this is a nato ally. eric: maybe forgot the brakes on the sales of the fighters that would really pressure erdogan perhaps. exactly. we really have to get this right. if the situation spiraling out of control for years. they are paying their payment brand for this, but these highlighting the humanitarian problem in highlighting a whole array of other issues and have sound policy and resolve. eric: her thoughts are with pastor branson and we hope he does achieve and reach renowned at some point. we ll see how that plays out. unfortunately seems to be on erdogan chess playing. thank you. alicia: president trump threatening to shut down immigration border security, but is that the message republicans on the campaign trail want to hear with just 100 days left until the mid-terms? 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class= nosel > div class= colspacer > div class= gutr > will: it s the 9 a.m. hour of fox & friends if weekend starting with a fox news alert, the israeli military rescuing four hostages alive after being held by hamas for eight months. pete: wow. plus, trump heading to the west coast today after scoring this big endorsement i just think there s no question about which of these men is cognitively, sort of more with it and intact. rachel: and summer break is here, and we have camping ideas and activities to keep your kids off screens. final hour of fox & friends weekend starts right now. i m gonna if need some whiskey glasses, cuz i don t want to see the truth rachel: [inaudible] [laughter] they re just trying to get us in a good mood. how can you not be in a good mood pete: this is chicago, by the way. will: we were having a country music argument during the break. not a argue, debate. rachel: no, it s more like will preening that he s so authentically country pete: thank you. rachel: and that that pete is just too highway country, recent country pete: i am a viewer ask and a fan of the highway on siriusxm p. it s what i m plugged into. i listen to it, i enjoy it. it introduces me will: it only hit that way with an insecure soul. rachel: i m not insecure, i come from arizona. been listening to country my whole life. will: we were play being ronnie mill if sap during the break pete: if i m, like, ronnie who? will: pete s, like, what s this? [laughter] pete: i group on michael w. smith and if chicago, the band. rachel: and he has is so embraced it will: i m trying to expand his horizons. i m not preen being pete: i think it s more of what you re saying, rachel, a little bit. he s got real knowledge though, and i respect that. he knew all the country channels on siriusxm will: garth is 55, prime is 58 [laughter] pete: the real deal. rachel: if you re impressed, please, email us. pete: nobody is. [laughter] this is the impressive, what we re about to talk about. rachel: absolutely impressive. this is a fox news alert. four israeli hostages landing in israel after they were rescued from hamas during an idf if operation in gaza earlier today. pete: all four for abducted during the assault on the nova music festival on october 7th. will: madeleine rivera joins us now. reporter: good morning, guys. that s right. after 246 days, 4 more hostages are back in israel, they are a 26-year-old, 41-year-old and 27-year-old, all of them kidnapped from the nova festival. the israeli defense forces said they are in good condition and are now undergoing more medical evaluations as they are reunited with their families. there are reports of people near the hospital cheering and celebrating their freedom, you can hear them there. and this touching moment shows one of the hostages reuniting with her father after eight long months in the hands of a hamas. a spokesperson for the idf says they conducted this rescue mission in daylight in two separate buildings deep inside gaza. israeli forces say they have been preparing for this rescue mission for if weeks and underwent intensive training. israeli president herzog saying on, and, on behalf of the entire people of israel, i thank the decision irk df, the israeli security agency, the israel police and israel s national counterterrorism unit for if an impressive and courageous rescue operation and wish for the immediate return of all of the hostages to their families. there are still 120 israeli hostages held by hamas in gaza, 433 of whom 43 of whom have been declared dead. will, pete and rachel. pete: i want to the know so much more about this. apparently, it was a hamas-controlled area, maybe even an ad a hoc area, but if they ve been training for weeks, means they have pretty solid intel. four found alive this far along, one of which is that young lady, one of the faces of rachel: yeah. who could forget that image of her on the back of that motorcycle and to see her pete: we. that s the girl from the back of the motorcycle. rachel: that s exactly her. this is a remarkable rescue. the images of her with her father, it appears to be, i think must bring a lot of joy to the entire nation. listen, this however you feel about this war, there are lots of people who have lots of feel beings about this war, these are innocent civilians. everyone should be rejoicing for them. will not just joy, but open. hope. i can imagine there s been a level of despair and resignation if after these many months. the likelihood of survival has gone down to a rachel: some of them are american, by the way. americans and and babies, children. pete: if sure. it also makes me think the israelis probably have a lot more intelligence at this point about precisely who is alive. maybe the general locations of with are they are. so when these negotiations are ongoing, we talk about it, they probably have a pretty good sense of what their really negotiating over here. thankfully, in this case that intelligence was so robust, they were you ve got to imagine hay maybe even had somebody on the inside. we ll see. we re going to get some guests, i m sure, for tomorrow morning that will unpack a lot more of this, but brave men and women going into harm s way to capture,s as you said, rachel rachel: these are innocent civilians. listen, this conflict, there have been innocent civilians on both sides, and that s why temperatures are high. lots of innocent civilians. these paris pete: there are lots of innocent civilians, but a hamas is the one that brought it rachel: i m not, i m not debating that. pete: brought it on themselves. rachel: these are beautiful images that we re getting right now of hostages that we weren t sure were alive, and thousand if we know they are and returned to the their families, and we re very joyful for that. will: well, a bit of a shift in american politic things as we approach election year 2024, and that is that donald trump is on the west coast. he s met a lot of success in not just fund raising, but in endorsements. in newport beach, california, today after silicon valley where, in a a fund raiser hosted by david sacks, raised over $12 million from silicon valley entrepreneur. and then david sacks endorsed donald trump. watch. yes. i think there s no comparison between the cognitive abilities of these two mening s. men. i think what we saw last night from president trump is he was very sharp, very on the ball. he stayed for something like four hours, he talked to everybody, everyone loved him. and at the same time, you saw biden at that a d-day event, and it looked like he couldn t keep up with whatever he was supposed to be doing there,,, so i just think there s no question about which of these men is cognitively sort of more with it and intact. pete: yeah. you might not if you re sitting at home like us saying what, why is david sacks important, or i don t really recognize him, he s got an influential podcast, he raises a lot of money, but he s representative of the center-right republican donor who was very skeptical of donald trump especially two years ago, probably never if would have conceived of being on our air talking about how he s going to host a fund raiser for him. and now he s not only hosting a fund if raiser, but with doubling the amount of money he s raising and raising real concerns about joe biden. for donald trump, that s a great sign that those types of billionaireses are weighing in on his behalf. rachel: yeah. and it s no, it s not a small thing. this was in san francisco, as you said, will. they expected to raise $5 million, they ended up with $12 million. they expected protests, and it turned out the people outside were pro-trumpers. again, not a sign that suddenly san francisco is pro-trump, but a lot of the energy on the left has been deflated because, listen, it s just not a great time in america, and people see that. he was asked, will, you know, what was it about a, you know this election that these people who might have been on the sidelines have jumped in? he said one was the regulatory environment which is can killing innovation, making it harder for entrepreneurs and investors to do their thing, but also the lawfare. this has scared a lot of people. and i know donald trump has sai, well, if it could happen to donald trump, it could happen to anyone. it s already happening. look what s happened to the pro-life protesters, elderly people who are getting the book thrown at them, getting prison time even though they ve sick. i just saw a list from the fbi, traditional catholics are still on the hate list for the fbi, traditional catholic groups. so the targeting of conservatives is still happening. with. will: yeah. you know, i ve been skeptical that after entering our third election cycle with donald trump whether or not there s anyone if left to win over, that 2024 would be more about motivation of existing bases, would joe biden s base turn out more or donald trump s? and lawfare serving to energize donald trump s base. i will tell you anecdotally knowing a few people out there the in that industry, there are a few people that are going to vote for trump for the first time in 2024. now, how much does that add a up to? i don t know. here s another one. russell brand who, by the way, used to be a huge voice on the left, has now all of a sudden not just become a voice of common sense p but now he s also endorsing donald trumpment watch. if donald trump. if you care about the moxie, if you care about freedom, i don t know how you could do anything other than than vote for donald trump for precisely the reasons that they claim you can t vote for donald trump. i m starting to think that, no, a greater threat to democracy is this kind of technological feudalism that a tells you that it cares about you and that it s protecting vulnerable people, all the while increasing censorship, increasing the funding of wars, increasing the division between ordinary americans. pete: that s when you put it that a way, will, it s a stunning turn of events. will: that s a huge swing from where he was at one time to what he s saying today. if. rachel: but with, will, this isn t about a donald trump and in this case with russell brand. i think there s a lot of people that were on that side that are now coming over, and i think a lot of it started with covid. i mean, when people started to see our government will lie to us, our government is willing to harm children in order if to advance its agenda, you know, whether that was, you know, the interests of big pharma, whether it was to get mail-in voting universal, something the democrats have wanted forever and covid provided the perfect if opportunity. i think there s a lot of that. i want to give you a quote from russell brand. i thought this was interesting. he hasn t just made a transformation politically, he s also made a religious transformation. he has been posting a lot of himself praying, praying the rosary. people speculate he s now become a catholic, but this is something that s really interesting. he said people are so cynical about the increasing interest in christianity and the return to god, but to me it s obvious. as meaning deteriorates in the modern world, as our value systems and institutions crumble, all of us become increasingly aware that there is this eerily familiar awakening and beckoning figure that a we ve all known all our lives within us and around us. of course he s talking about jesus christ. fascinating. pete: it is fascinating. in my year-long bible study, i m in e cleese whereas with tease right now which is written by king solomon, and he writes about having all the riches of the world and yet nothing new under the sun. and ultimately, you know, we are all ashes and dust. you know, nothing in this world is ultimately going to satisfy you, and i think a lot of people are in that a moment. they re looking around and saying there s got to be something bigger. and when you re fulfilled through god if or something greater than yourself, that provides that. clearly, that s been a big role in russell brand s life. rachel: that focus as everything gets crazy and we can t trust anything especially in our government, all that a matters is god and family. and i think millions and millions of people across the world are feeling that in this moment. will: we re going to turn now to your headlines. family confirming apollo 8 astronaut william anders is dead after his plane crashed after washington finish off washington s islands yesterday. ing he and his crew were the first three people to have traveled to the moon although they did not land on it, but he s known for taking this famous photo while in space. andrew s anders was 90 years old. a neighborhood in the hartford, connecticut, has formed a group to patrol their streets to fend if off violent crime. the self-defense brigade made up of around 40 legally-armed citizens voluntarily monitors the streets wearing body cameras on nights and weekends. when they are not the streets, they re monitoring the neighborhood if using drones and surveillance cameras. the group formed after there was a shooting at a church that left two men if dead. to the wnba, caitlin clark tying the record for most 3s made by a rookie, knocking down 7 at the indiana a as the indiana fever if take down the washington mist picks before a soldout crowd in d.c. katie after last night s game, so today really the first time [inaudible] for mitchell. clark, another one. [cheers and applause] will: the mist ifics trying to mount a comeback late in the fourth quarter, but clark made a free throw to ice the game, 85-83 and those are your with headlines. pete: tough shots. will: yeah. pete: those are tough shots. rachel: you know, the story about the people, you know, having to protect their own neighborhood, that s super third world. that s the kind of tough that happens in latin america. fascinating how much we ve devolved as a country, it s crazy. pete: connecticut. rachel: connecticut or el salvador which is safer are right now. el salvador s the safest country in the western hemisphere pete: at the end of a long week for me, one of the most edifying parts of talking about my book has been getting feedback from you, lots of it, over social media, text, whatever. can and one stuck out that that i got yesterday, and i ve got from people serving, and it s been almost universally positive and affirming. but i don t with get me mails from generals. i got an e that mail yesterday [laughter] rachel: you re not popular with the generals these days. president not really. this is from a retire tired army major general, and it s all redacted. i m retired and i confirmed this, by the way. retired army major general with 35 years of a certain type of experience and combat experience in our wonderful army. this chapter, chapter3, struck a chord because you codified my meal feels feelings about our senior military leadership. i served with many of our current and short-past generals. everything you wrote is spot is on. i was never a conformist. i got out in a certain year because with i wasn t promoted to three stars and thought maybe i could hop into the sweet defense industry gig. that s where i saw all of my old bosses compromised by thal a mighty dollar. everything you wrote is true, we need a new awakening and someone to stand upper for what is right. go, army. will: wow. ing that s a heck of a rachel: interesting. will: validation can, affirmation. pete: yeah. and just hearing from guys saying, you know what? my commander s reading this and he s laughing at this part, meaning agreeing with it, and, you know, spot on here. thank you for the response from so many viewers. you ve made this number one on amazon for most of the week, and you never know when you put if something like this out here k. and a lot of it has been fox & friends weekend viewers willing to indulge us and me and my two wonderful cohosts who have been willing to listen to me talk about this book for a get it now to read for the summer anywhere books are sold. rachel: i think just as you have with education, here on the military i think you have made this a campaign issue, something people are paying attention to as another benefit of changing this administration. i think i ll ask you right here, have you heard anything about the reaction of generals right now who are in service or what they predict their reaction is? if after our interview with donald trump said i now know who they aring those woke general generals o or the ones going along with the woke agenda, and he said i will fire them. what has been the reaction, what s happened since that really blockbuster moment on the interview? pete: yeah. i think a lot of them know that their time may be up in a new administration and, you know, donald trump s going to have the choice to pick a new and very different secretary of defense than lloyd austin. rachel: well, he suggested you. [laughter] pete: whoever it is, who s lloyd austin has gone along with all the woke garbage lock, stock and barrel. and and milli milley did it with him, and he doesn t like the book at all. all the other four-stars, many south america if they re focused on women and lgbt leadership issues in south america while china s gobbling up resources, totally distracted. our pentagon can get back to that with the right leadershipping and the fact that that donald trump knows that and is prepared to take that on is important because we ve got a dangerous world with, a really dangerous world. when you dig into china, will, they are building a military to take us on in 5-7 years. if not sooner. rachel: here in our hemisphere. pete: scarily. will: what institution are you going to take on next? pete: let s go. [laughter] rachel: because he already said he was going to get rid of the education department will: i told him which one to go for. california governor gab newsom s proposing a new plan to defund the police just as the state faces a surge in crime. rachel: and we talk to a former san francisco officer, next. will: california governor gavin newsom is proposing a new plan to defund the police and the state s justice system whale thl reeling from a surge in crime. the democrat s proposal includes slashing $97 million from the court system and another $10 million from law enforcement. and more than $80 million from the prison system. former san francisco police officer joel hayward joins us now to react. joel, thanks for being with us. it s pretty shocking. i think most of the nation has realized that defunding law enforcement, defunding the criminal justice system has been a massive mistake, and yet in california this is the place we re looking to save money. yeah. it s no surprise, i mean, to see this play from gavin newsom. i always say there s no bad teams, there s just bad leaders, and he continues to show up. and we see this though typically, there s always a cycle of hiring surges and then hiring freezes. it probably happens almost every decade, but right now if they ve got a massive budget deficit, and this is where they are look to cut the corners. and if you just look at areas like san francisco where i used to work, i mean, they went from an overtime budget of $25.3 million in 2023 that was projected, and it actually ended up being $81 is million. so they spent $55 million more on overtime, and they still can t curb the crime crisis. they had, like, 200 stores from downtown union square leave. productivity in san francisco is down 555, so what do you think s going to happen when they cut allocation to resources? it s just going to get worse. will: the office spokesperson for golf governor newsom is saying it will not impact public safety or release in the result in the release of inmates. cutting costs including through the deactivation of beds. you know, joel, what you kind of described there is a death spiral because part of what s happening in california is a lack of revenue because people are businesses, as you point out, but high net worth individuals and also a just regular citizens of california are moving out. we know this. idaho, arizona, texas, they re move being off the states, reducing your revenues. thousand you make it less safe to be in california, this spiral will continue. yeah. and what s happened so far? i mean, let s do this, let s increase the gas prices. i think they re, what, $8 in california? let s add a gas tax. even better, let s just take away your gas stoves. none of his solutions are working, and i just saw senator kevin kylie posted that they spent $53 million if on illegal immigrants in medicaid, and and that number is projected to be $3.8 billion in the if next year. so they re doing a lot, obviously, to fund other things like san francisco, for another example, the homeless are being offered alcohol. i mean, these are just insane policies and protocols, i mean, where we could be spending our money in a different way. and, you know, i think there s if california s going to survive, it s not going to be through law enforcement, clearly. and they re going to need to look for other disruptive solutions, and i think there s people out there will: like that? they re using drones and out creating other efficiencies with local law enforcement and creating local partnerships, private and public, and that s probably the only way you re going to see actual tangible solutions. and i think the community needs to collaborate and get together because that s the only way. law enforcement in california is not going to save you. clearly, the response times in san francisco pd, they just did a study and for an officer to respond to a violent crime, it s taking almost 10 minutes. it s the lowest in 6 years. will: that sounded like the story we just reported out of connecticut where local neighborhood watches are coming together to try to fill the gap to keep their neighborhoods safe where they weren t able to be supported in that case by law enforcement. if that s the case for california because of a lack of options, we wish you the best of luck. joel, thanks for being with us. you got it, thanks. will: hold your horses, janice dean is coming up with a preview of the 156th running of the belmont stakes live from saratoga springs. i hear you have a special guest. yes, very exciting. 6:411, is post time. we have got a bit of a freeze, i m not going to lie, we could sew some thunderstorms, but i think for race time it s going to be spectacular. the 1516th belmont takes 156th belmont stakes in share toeing baa. don t go away. i m coming at you like a dark horse. muck are you ready for, ready for, the perfect storm, perfect storm? with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. pete: that s a great graphic. looking ahead to the belmont stakes tonight, sierra leone is picked to come out on top. our next guest helps us break down the odds, let s bring in kwan misif dean who s join janice dean who who s joined by a sports expert. if. wagering expert, that s pretty cool. how d you get into something like this? i ve always been involved in sports and loved sports. i grew up on long island, so i group around belmont park and then being in miami if p it just continued, being in if college around gulf stream and hialeah. i ve always loved the horses and sports, so it s kind of a perfect confluence of events. your job is to make people money though. so tell me who your favorite pick is. i am those who follow he on my podcast and on big noon, whatever else, they know i m really not a favorite player. but here i am going to go to the favorite, sierra leone. i thought he was the best 3-year-old prior to the kentucky derby and he had a rough trip in the derby. he s had a tendency to lug out, is so today they fit him with a different bit, he s got a jockey change, chad brown, this is his home track. you ve got a shorter field, it s kind of put up or shut up for sierra a leone today. i think no more excuses. i do think he will prove he is the best 3 year. who s your long snot who s going to make the most money? i think resilience. bill mott is the train, pretty conservative, doesn t run horses he doesn t think has a chance to run. ever since adding blinker, the horse has been much more mature and focused. might be a little closer to the front of the pace today, but i think 10 to 1 or so resilience might be someone you might want to put underneath because as a handicapper, as a better, i m looking to make money. so i m going to look for resilience or maybe a seize the gray to finish second. how do you do it? to win, box em play an exacta, give me a $55 exacta a, sierra leone with resilience and seize the gray. 99 with 1 9 with 1, 2. someone s writing that down for me. how does it feel to be on this track for belmont? it s awesome. i ve been coming here for years, and it s really cool. i m a big advocate of them trying to get the breeders cup yes. so if they can pull this off for the 4-day festival, maybe they can say, come on, breeders. to get a taste before the meal opens up next month, this is great. second year for fox sports, have they been treating you well? it s been great. it s been awesome, fantastic. i love it. fox sports tonight, 6:41, but there s racing all day long. we re going to bet on some horse, oh, in about a 151 minutes. maybe we have already. maybe we have, but i haven t had a drink yet, chris. neither have i. [laughter] okay. we re going to do that right now. pete, will and rachel. pete: yeah, in 26 minutes, you re good to go. oh, it s happening. pete: nobody sets the stage better than you, janice. thank you so much. rachel: wagering expert. bill: will: big noon kickoff. rachel: i had an uncle who was a wagering expert. [laughter] pete: we all do. will: kind of hot on this story this week, there is a new stock exchange being formed in texas to take on the new york stock exchange. they plan to the take registration later this year. the wall street journal writing, new york democrats have long taken wall street for granted imposing punishing taxes and regulations. progressives in albany if recently threatened to revive a hong-dormant stock transfer tax. go ahead, make the texas exchange s day. pete: that s the wall street journal. [laughter] if. will: it s a big story, ask and i know it was big talk this week in texas. rachel: is it going to happen? will: oh, yeah. so they ve raised $120 million, and this is of interesting note, $30 million from citadel, $30 million from blackrock. now, the reasoning for this or part of the reasoning is that all these regulations in place in the new york stock exchange include requirements for board membership. is so this is a pushback on dei and esg policies. and i know in the past we ve talked a lot about blackrock s role pete: they were advocates. will: in advocating for everything sg policies. blackrock, probably like every other capitalist organization s, ultimate goal is to make money. they rode the esg wave while that was an opportunity to make money. they see now it s not, and they re putting together a new exchange to rival new york stock exchange to get around a lot of these things that have pulled companies away from if making money. and i think this is a real you know, we talk about alternative markets. this is a real, this is a real opportunity to put publicly-traded companies on the right path. pete: go, texas. rachel: really interesting development. i hadn t heard about it until you brought it up, but you re right, there s such a back lack. when we heard larry fink talk about all these policies and when it was dei or the climate stuff, he sounds so passionate about it, it s hard to believe that he s sincere in this. but, clearly will: $30 million rachel: $30 million is a lot of pete: i get what s going on here. think place that wants to be its own country has to have its own stock exchange. [laughter] rachel: this is part of pete: yes. we thought it was going to be governor will cain, it s going to be president will cain. rachel: oh, no, it s going to be president. it s so funny, we ve talked for a long time about, you know, where would we, i, the duffys, eventually end up, and we talk about the overseas, places in the country. sean has timely decided will: texas. rachel: texas. will: you ve still got to fight for texas. you ve got to fight for every. you ve got to fight for tennessee, but i to like some of the direction i think this is good for america. rachel: i do too. pete: the competition is great. will: i think you re going to see some very recognizable companies. pete: interesting. you never if even thought there was an option. one of those thing, the stock exchange is the stock exchange, it s in new york. given an alternative if your bottom line is what you re looking at, you could see a big change. rachel: think how many people are stuck in new york because of the stock exchange who who actually want to pete: oh, my goodness. rachel: fascinating. pete: look out. all right, we are three days into joe biden s crackdown at the border, so is it working? unfortunately, the answer will not surprise you. we talk to the arizona state senate president on the steps they re taking to try to limit the flow. if sing weight and keeping it off? same. discover the power of wegovy®. with wegovy®, i lost 35 pounds. and some lost over 46 pounds. and i m keeping the weight off. wegovy® helps you lose weight and keep it off. i m reducing my risk. wegovy® is the only fda-approved weight-management medicine that s proven to reduce risk of major cardiovascular events in adults with known heart disease and with either obesity or overweight. wegovy® shouldn t be used with semaglutide or glp-1 medicines. don t take wegovy® if you or your family had medullary thyroid cancer, multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop wegovy® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis and gallbladder problems. wegovy® may cause low blood sugar in people with diabetes, especially if you take medicines to treat diabetes. tell your provider about vision problems or changes, or if you feel your heart racing while at rest. depression or thoughts of suicide may occur. call your provider right away if you have any mental changes. common side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. with wegovy®, i m losing weight, i m keeping it off. and i m lowering my cv risk. that s the power of we. check your cost and coverage before talking to your health care professional about wegovy®. pete: we re back with a fox news alert, israeli hostages reuniting with their families this morning, in hospitals after a being with rescued in a daring raid from hamas during an idf operation in gaza. all four, you ll remember, were abducted during the assault on the nova music festival on october 7th. one of them is that young lady you saw being taken away on a motorcycle. madeleinely veria rivera joining us now. unfortunately, one of the officers involved has i dod, saying he was critically injured and identified as chief inspector arna a n. we re hoping to get you some photos so we can show you. this was a highly complex operation,s israeli forces have been preparing for this for weeks, it required intensive training. these hostages were found in two separate building inside of central gaza, and these hostages are 26-year-old noa, 22-year-old a a lmog with, 41-year-old shlomi and 27-year-old andri, all of them kidnapped from the festival. the israeli defense forces said they are undergoing more medical evaluations as they are reunited with their families. there are reports of people near hospital cheering and celebrating their freedom, and this is just crind, news for these families who have been waiting for 246 days for news about their loved ones, so now they are celebrating their return. so many emotional moments this morning. we received a statement from the defense minister saying our troops showed so much courage operating under heavy fire in the most complex if urban environment in gaza. i do not remember having pleated operations of this kind, of this intensity and with this level of cooperation and success is. israeli president herzog also saying on x, on behalf of the entire people of israel or, i thank the ix, the israeli id finishing, the israeli security agency and israel s counterterrorism unit for an impressive and courageous rescue operation. i wish for the immediate return of all of the hostages to their families. and remember, there are still 120 israeli hostages held in gaza, 43 of whom have been declared dead. pete? pete: wow. madeleine, thank you very much. much more on this throughout the day on the channel and, certainly, on our program tomorrow. rachel, over to you. rachel: thank you, pete. president biden s border executive order took effect this week, but illegal immigrants do not seem deterred. in the last few days the average crossings are almost 3900, barely down from 4 the 200 in april 4200. so arizona lawmakers are taking matters into their own hands, putting a texas-style november law border law on the november ballot. joining us now is the texas senate president, warren peterson. so great to have you on, senator. i guess joe biden is taking a lot of heat for what s going on, but it looks like the governor this arizona is too. tell us how citizens on the ground are feeling about this and if katie is feeling the heat as a well. well, yeah. as i go around and talk to my constituents, this is always one of the top issues if not the top issue. people are worried about the crime, the drugs, the fentanyl that s spilling in from the border. and and so the citizens are concerned. the governor has said she s concerned as well, but she, she vetoes our bills [laughter] to protect the border. so we re going around the governor. we have passed a referral out, it will go directly to the voters. they will get to decide and vote in november. it s basically just a law that mirrors federal law, that you have to come in there new, come into this country through a legal port of industry. and if you don t, then we re going to enforce the law since the federal government won t enforce the law and deter tease people these people from coming into the country illegally. rachel: you know, that executive order actually exempts unaccompanied minors from, you know, being returned back in any way. what do people in arizona think about that? because that seems like just from a humanitarian the point of view a terrible situation, really putting children in danger and making the chances that they fall into sex trafficking more likely. 100. all the energy, all the everything is now going to move to those children, the focus will be to use those children rachel: yes. as puppets for the terrorists and for these cartels. that is horrible. and biden s executive order is a joke. he s virtue signaling. it still allows a million people to come into the country illegally every year if it s enforced correctly. the number should be zero. and so it s really just, it s not going to do anything. and the fact that now it s going to be focused on children, this is, it s just setting up future atrocities. rachel: no, of course. it s horrible. again, i m so curious, like, i m not on the ground in the arizona. i m originally from there, so i m just trying to understand how katie hobbs is managing this politically. aligned with joe biden, she s done nothing to protect the board, and and now she see ises the numbers and9 that the peopld that the people of arizona want border security, how is she navigating this just politically? oh, gosh, it s, it s a disaster for her. this last week has been horrible. she was just referred to for criminal charges rachel: right. in what appears to be a pay to play with one of her favorite businesses. she, a judge just told her she s breaking the law because she wouldn t with allow us to she was nominating directors or without us confirming them. and with the border, she s failing. she talks the talk, but then when we put bills on her desk, she s not signing them, and she s taking a lot of heat for this. rachel: yeah. clearly, this open border s intentional with governor katie hobbs, she appears to be part of the effort to keep the border open and just pretend like they re doing stuff before november. it s really great of to have you on, senator. thanks for joining us. thanks for having me. rachel: you got it. coming up tomorrow on fox & friends weekend, governor doug burgum and senate tim scott. and we ll continue monitoring president biden s state visit to france as we await his statement with french president macron. we can secure our world. watch out for offers too good to be true. that s phishing! someone s trying to take advantage of you. learn more at cisa.gov/secureourworld that s how we can secure our world! [sfx] water lapping. [sfx] water splashing. [sfx] ambient / laughing. we can secure our world. don t just use a password alone. mfa sends a call, a text or a code to your phone. learn more at cisa.gov/secureourworld that s how we can secure our world! rachel: school is out, but as the weather gets better, it looks like more kids these days are choosing smartphones and screens over sunscreen is. [laughter] pete: and we re here with a lifestyle expert to show us how to keep your kids out and about in your own backyard and off their phones. lenore. hi. we re going camping in our backyard today. pete: i love that. we re setting up the camp campsite. we have a tent, some chairs, and i got some camping toys from learning resources. a camp set and a camp outset. roasting some mar if, mall lows and he has a land person, really fun, or he s making lantern, he s making smores. rachel: that s impressive. pete: yeah. i love this. you really can get the kids excited about a camping, and you can see some really great screen-free sun. pete: hand me that shovel or, will you, buddy? [laughter] over here we have some crafts. what i ve done is i made some rock tic tac toe, you just paint it with crayola paint, and you can make fossils. you can send the kids out on a scavenger hunt, get leaves and rocks, all kinds of textures. you flat ifen it out, press down the rock or the leave are, you let it dry overnight and you have a keepsake from your campout. and then you paint it if you want the next day. screen-free fun. this right here is the tony box. they have these tonies, you put them right on top and from the character from that story, they have this is toy story, they have cookie monster, they have paw patrol president i m hearing some music, yeah. and stories from the actual movie or show that that character is in. pete: let me give you a paw patrol. hundreds events the paw patrol one is not set up pete: oh, sorry. follow the script, pete. sorry. [laughter] i m sorry, i m sorry. but, yes, you would set it up, and it would normally work with. pete: awesome. and so now all of these screen-free activities have gotten me hungry, so you re going to love these. these are the hill shire snacks pete: i like these a lot. i ve had em. they re really just an elevated snack, salami, some delicious cheeses, really delicious and easy rachel: you could pack a picnic lunch of just give them it s kind of like char cutely without the mess. pete: i just did hot dogs. well, these are a little bit elevated. ray i love it. and then we re going to make some smores. you want to come here and make some s moressome if we ve elevated it rachel: i love this idea. some circus animal cookies. you re going to roast the marshmallows, then i opened up these little bags of the animal cookies dis,. [inaudible] [laughter] and then what you re going to do is you re basically going to make walking smores pete: oh, lie take. and like that. and you can have mess-free smore ifs. pete: you re promising me mess-free s mores? that has never occurred in my life ever. [laughter] rachel: you can actually invent that, you ll be rich. we have these, you re going to put them right in here, add some chocolate and then just let it cool for a minute so you don t burn your little hands and that s it. how fun is this? pete: you have done it for us. rachel: you always do it right. thanks. pete: all right. more fox & friends in just a moment while we consume this. pete: well, thank you for joining us all a morning long, it s gone fast. rachel: it has. tony and shelley in roma, virginia is. finish. pete: thank you very much. to do two things today. enjoy the beautiful day and then the order the warren on warrior- rachel: in time for father s day. pete: we love our viewers. thank you so much, or we ll see you tomorrow. will: see you tomorrow. measure neil: fox on top of an election less than five months away now
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