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But it's what she represents. she's not going to be -- she's not going to kowtow to the republican establishment or any establishment, she's going to speak her mind. i think that's what you see across the nation. people are speaking their mind. they're tired of government as usual. >> reminds me of something we used to say in the '60s, i've got something to say and i'm going to say it now. phil oaks, i think it was. different point of view. thanks for coming on, as always. good luck to dick cheney -- not dick cheney. dick army. i like army a lot. we've heard a lot of secession from people li...

meanwhile, here in washington, welcome to the vast right-wing conspiracy. that was the proud and ironic opening line at the conservative political action conference. the biggest moment was a surprise appearance by former vice president dick cheney. >> and i think barack obama is a one-term president. >> that was a hoot. we'll talk cheney and the cpac in just a moment. let's start with the latest on the suicide plane crash in austin, texas. nbc news chief justice correspondent pete williams is here with the latest. pete, a sad, tragic tale. >> indeed so, chris. i think the working t...

They're tired of government as usual. >> reminds me of something we used to say in the '60s, i've got something to say and i'm going to say it now. phil oaks, i think it was. different point of view. thanks for coming on, as always. good luck to dick cheney -- not dick cheney. dick army. i like army a lot. we've heard a lot of secession from people like dick perry. now we've got the final word from the united states supreme court whether a state has the right to secede. lincoln gave that answer back in 1861.n ur own, until life shows up with hungry. or, you can follow the weight watchers pla...